1 00:00:16,630 --> 00:00:15,030 hey we're live at nasa's goddard space 2 00:00:18,710 --> 00:00:16,640 flight center and we are inside of the 3 00:00:20,390 --> 00:00:18,720 robotics operations center if you look 4 00:00:23,509 --> 00:00:20,400 around there's some of the tools and 5 00:00:24,870 --> 00:00:23,519 technology in here that is for robotic 6 00:00:27,109 --> 00:00:24,880 servicing so 7 00:00:29,830 --> 00:00:27,119 we're celebrating 25 years of hubble 8 00:00:32,069 --> 00:00:29,840 servicing today 25 years ago the first 9 00:00:34,389 --> 00:00:32,079 astronaut mission to the hubble space 10 00:00:37,510 --> 00:00:34,399 telescope to service the telescope and 11 00:00:39,110 --> 00:00:37,520 upgrade its components launched and 12 00:00:42,310 --> 00:00:39,120 we're here to talk all about it and 13 00:00:43,510 --> 00:00:42,320 serve satellite servicing past present 14 00:00:45,190 --> 00:00:43,520 and future 15 00:00:47,510 --> 00:00:45,200 so you may be wondering 16 00:00:49,190 --> 00:00:47,520 what is satellite servicing the same way 17 00:00:51,189 --> 00:00:49,200 you take your car in to get service to 18 00:00:53,830 --> 00:00:51,199 get the tires rotated to get the oil 19 00:00:56,310 --> 00:00:53,840 change or even just to fuel up sometimes 20 00:00:57,110 --> 00:00:56,320 our satellites in space need a little 21 00:00:59,750 --> 00:00:57,120 help 22 00:01:02,869 --> 00:00:59,760 and that's where we've got astronauts 23 00:01:04,390 --> 00:01:02,879 and tools and robotics they all come in 24 00:01:06,789 --> 00:01:04,400 i'm sure you've got a ton of questions 25 00:01:08,630 --> 00:01:06,799 and i do too send them into the hashtag 26 00:01:11,830 --> 00:01:08,640 ask nasa we're streaming live from 27 00:01:13,510 --> 00:01:11,840 facebook twitter instagram and twitch so 28 00:01:15,429 --> 00:01:13,520 start sending them on in we've got our 29 00:01:17,990 --> 00:01:15,439 first guest here today you may have 30 00:01:20,390 --> 00:01:18,000 heard of him his name is charlie bolden 31 00:01:22,310 --> 00:01:20,400 he's a hubble astronaut and he is also 32 00:01:23,749 --> 00:01:22,320 the former administrator of nasa erin 33 00:01:25,109 --> 00:01:23,759 how you doing good to be good to be here 34 00:01:26,950 --> 00:01:25,119 with you i'm so happy to have you thank 35 00:01:28,950 --> 00:01:26,960 you thank you thank you so first and 36 00:01:31,109 --> 00:01:28,960 foremost can we explain to our audience 37 00:01:32,550 --> 00:01:31,119 why we even put satellites into space in 38 00:01:34,310 --> 00:01:32,560 the first place yeah i think most people 39 00:01:35,990 --> 00:01:34,320 are aware of the fact that we use 40 00:01:38,789 --> 00:01:36,000 satellites today everybody thinks about 41 00:01:40,710 --> 00:01:38,799 tv but far more than that we use it for 42 00:01:42,469 --> 00:01:40,720 disaster planning and relief we use it 43 00:01:43,910 --> 00:01:42,479 to help farmers 44 00:01:45,990 --> 00:01:43,920 when they're trying to figure out how 45 00:01:48,230 --> 00:01:46,000 much to water their fields we can get 46 00:01:51,190 --> 00:01:48,240 that data through satellites very simple 47 00:01:52,389 --> 00:01:51,200 things like making your fitbit work and 48 00:01:54,870 --> 00:01:52,399 other kinds of stuff that's all 49 00:01:57,429 --> 00:01:54,880 satellite data and what we've done over 50 00:01:59,830 --> 00:01:57,439 the years is made satellites more and 51 00:02:02,310 --> 00:01:59,840 more capable as you mentioned earlier in 52 00:02:04,389 --> 00:02:02,320 your in your intro such that they do a 53 00:02:06,389 --> 00:02:04,399 lot of the work that we want humans to 54 00:02:08,869 --> 00:02:06,399 be able to do but we don't want to put 55 00:02:11,350 --> 00:02:08,879 the humans at risk so so satellites and 56 00:02:13,750 --> 00:02:11,360 robotic devices have enabled us to get 57 00:02:15,190 --> 00:02:13,760 into places where if it weren't for the 58 00:02:17,270 --> 00:02:15,200 satellite we probably have to send a 59 00:02:18,869 --> 00:02:17,280 human there to get the answers we want 60 00:02:19,990 --> 00:02:18,879 so um 61 00:02:21,910 --> 00:02:20,000 hubble 62 00:02:24,070 --> 00:02:21,920 was designed to be serviced and we sent 63 00:02:26,630 --> 00:02:24,080 astronauts up five different times to do 64 00:02:28,869 --> 00:02:26,640 so what exactly does a human servicing 65 00:02:31,030 --> 00:02:28,879 mission look like well 66 00:02:32,869 --> 00:02:31,040 i i did not fly on one of the servicing 67 00:02:36,070 --> 00:02:32,879 missions the unfortunate thing was i was 68 00:02:37,910 --> 00:02:36,080 the pilot on sts-31 when we left hubble 69 00:02:39,509 --> 00:02:37,920 needing to be serviced when we found out 70 00:02:41,910 --> 00:02:39,519 that it had this thing called a 71 00:02:44,710 --> 00:02:41,920 spherical aberration that that caused it 72 00:02:46,550 --> 00:02:44,720 to need glasses like i do and so we came 73 00:02:48,869 --> 00:02:46,560 up with a device called costar that was 74 00:02:50,869 --> 00:02:48,879 a big telephone booth looking set of 75 00:02:53,110 --> 00:02:50,879 optics that we were able to send the 76 00:02:55,110 --> 00:02:53,120 very first servicing crew up 77 00:02:56,869 --> 00:02:55,120 remove some of the old instruments put 78 00:02:59,350 --> 00:02:56,879 the new optics in 79 00:03:02,070 --> 00:02:59,360 replace the solar arrays and get it to 80 00:03:04,630 --> 00:03:02,080 working and seeing the way that it was 81 00:03:06,390 --> 00:03:04,640 intended to to see when we first sent it 82 00:03:08,470 --> 00:03:06,400 up there so that was the the first 83 00:03:10,630 --> 00:03:08,480 purpose of the initial servicing mission 84 00:03:11,509 --> 00:03:10,640 and that didn't happen terribly long 85 00:03:14,149 --> 00:03:11,519 after 86 00:03:15,430 --> 00:03:14,159 launched three years yeah it depends on 87 00:03:17,110 --> 00:03:15,440 how you look at it if you look at it 88 00:03:19,430 --> 00:03:17,120 from the standpoint of nasa and the 89 00:03:21,430 --> 00:03:19,440 astronomers and astrophysicists who were 90 00:03:24,149 --> 00:03:21,440 waiting to get data from hubble it took 91 00:03:25,750 --> 00:03:24,159 way too long if you're from some the 92 00:03:27,910 --> 00:03:25,760 perspective of somebody here at goddard 93 00:03:29,509 --> 00:03:27,920 who's planning all the mission 94 00:03:31,270 --> 00:03:29,519 it was pretty quick 95 00:03:33,110 --> 00:03:31,280 you know trying to figure out what we 96 00:03:34,949 --> 00:03:33,120 needed to do what kind of tools we 97 00:03:36,869 --> 00:03:34,959 needed to come up with the good thing 98 00:03:38,149 --> 00:03:36,879 was we had people you're going to talk 99 00:03:40,309 --> 00:03:38,159 to a couple of them jeff hoffman and 100 00:03:42,869 --> 00:03:40,319 john grunsfeld later who had been with 101 00:03:45,110 --> 00:03:42,879 hubble years before we first flew it and 102 00:03:46,470 --> 00:03:45,120 had already envisioned the kind of tools 103 00:03:48,789 --> 00:03:46,480 that you would need if you're going to 104 00:03:50,470 --> 00:03:48,799 do certain operations that are more than 105 00:03:52,390 --> 00:03:50,480 likely going to be needed changing our 106 00:03:54,390 --> 00:03:52,400 batteries changing gyros changing the 107 00:03:56,390 --> 00:03:54,400 solar rays so some of those tools were 108 00:03:58,630 --> 00:03:56,400 already in place co-star was not in 109 00:04:01,589 --> 00:03:58,640 anybody's plan so 110 00:04:03,350 --> 00:04:01,599 you know the folk over here got to work 111 00:04:05,030 --> 00:04:03,360 and that's what took the extra time was 112 00:04:05,990 --> 00:04:05,040 actually designing the new tools we were 113 00:04:08,390 --> 00:04:06,000 going to me 114 00:04:09,910 --> 00:04:08,400 need and the the tactics techniques and 115 00:04:11,110 --> 00:04:09,920 procedures if you will that the 116 00:04:12,949 --> 00:04:11,120 astronauts were going to follow when 117 00:04:15,589 --> 00:04:12,959 they finally got to the telescope 118 00:04:17,990 --> 00:04:15,599 so you actually have a very interesting 119 00:04:20,150 --> 00:04:18,000 history with nasa so you're an astronaut 120 00:04:21,509 --> 00:04:20,160 you deployed hubble you know you were 121 00:04:22,870 --> 00:04:21,519 part of that mission and then you were 122 00:04:23,830 --> 00:04:22,880 also the administrator so tell us a 123 00:04:25,830 --> 00:04:23,840 little bit about 124 00:04:27,110 --> 00:04:25,840 your experience sometimes i think the 125 00:04:29,270 --> 00:04:27,120 president looked back and said who had 126 00:04:31,590 --> 00:04:29,280 done the worst of causing us trouble 127 00:04:33,830 --> 00:04:31,600 let's let him fix him but i was 128 00:04:36,469 --> 00:04:33,840 privileged to serve for almost all eight 129 00:04:38,230 --> 00:04:36,479 years of president obama's term as uh as 130 00:04:39,830 --> 00:04:38,240 the nasa administrator and during that 131 00:04:40,870 --> 00:04:39,840 period of time or leading up to it 132 00:04:42,790 --> 00:04:40,880 actually 133 00:04:45,909 --> 00:04:42,800 i had an opportunity to spend a lot of 134 00:04:47,749 --> 00:04:45,919 time here at goddard uh actually sit in 135 00:04:50,469 --> 00:04:47,759 on be briefed on a lot of the the 136 00:04:52,230 --> 00:04:50,479 robotic missions that we wanted to fly 137 00:04:53,990 --> 00:04:52,240 things like restore el that are here 138 00:04:55,670 --> 00:04:54,000 where we were actually going to go up 139 00:04:57,350 --> 00:04:55,680 and service a satellite that maybe 140 00:04:58,950 --> 00:04:57,360 needed to be refueled needed to be 141 00:05:00,870 --> 00:04:58,960 serviced because some component wasn't 142 00:05:02,550 --> 00:05:00,880 working and so we got to see quite a bit 143 00:05:03,990 --> 00:05:02,560 of that during my tenure as the nasa 144 00:05:05,350 --> 00:05:04,000 administrator it was quite interesting 145 00:05:06,550 --> 00:05:05,360 and challenging 146 00:05:08,870 --> 00:05:06,560 so 147 00:05:11,510 --> 00:05:08,880 the last servicing mission yeah i 148 00:05:13,510 --> 00:05:11,520 understand that there was a maybe do 149 00:05:15,350 --> 00:05:13,520 maybe don't situation tell us a little 150 00:05:17,909 --> 00:05:15,360 bit again it seems like i pop up in the 151 00:05:20,710 --> 00:05:17,919 strangest places right after i retired 152 00:05:23,189 --> 00:05:20,720 from from the marine corps in 2003 153 00:05:25,430 --> 00:05:23,199 unfortunately the next month we had the 154 00:05:27,029 --> 00:05:25,440 columbia accident and that caused the 155 00:05:28,710 --> 00:05:27,039 president the nasa administrator at the 156 00:05:30,390 --> 00:05:28,720 time to cancel 157 00:05:31,909 --> 00:05:30,400 the hubble servicing mission that was 158 00:05:34,550 --> 00:05:31,919 scheduled and it was going to be the 159 00:05:36,790 --> 00:05:34,560 last planned mission 160 00:05:38,950 --> 00:05:36,800 we were going to try to use robotics to 161 00:05:41,350 --> 00:05:38,960 service the satellite and or the the 162 00:05:42,710 --> 00:05:41,360 observatory and i served on a committee 163 00:05:44,469 --> 00:05:42,720 that actually looked at it and the 164 00:05:46,550 --> 00:05:44,479 technology just wasn't there at the time 165 00:05:48,550 --> 00:05:46,560 so we had to go in and talk to the nasa 166 00:05:50,790 --> 00:05:48,560 administrator explain to him that the 167 00:05:53,830 --> 00:05:50,800 safest and surest way to save hubble was 168 00:05:56,150 --> 00:05:53,840 to accept the risk of flying one more 169 00:05:58,790 --> 00:05:56,160 crude mission to serve as hubble and 170 00:06:00,710 --> 00:05:58,800 that one like the last two was about as 171 00:06:02,629 --> 00:06:00,720 ambitious as you can get where we had 172 00:06:04,309 --> 00:06:02,639 five days in a row of back to back to 173 00:06:07,430 --> 00:06:04,319 back to back to back 174 00:06:08,950 --> 00:06:07,440 evas with tremendous crews things going 175 00:06:10,710 --> 00:06:08,960 wrong every once in a while but because 176 00:06:12,710 --> 00:06:10,720 you had the combination of people here 177 00:06:14,309 --> 00:06:12,720 on the ground and the crew on board we 178 00:06:16,070 --> 00:06:14,319 were able to kind of work our way 179 00:06:18,950 --> 00:06:16,080 through it and had two incredibly 180 00:06:20,629 --> 00:06:18,960 successful missions and left hubble uh 181 00:06:22,230 --> 00:06:20,639 in much better shape today than i think 182 00:06:23,830 --> 00:06:22,240 it was ever envisioned to be by its 183 00:06:25,909 --> 00:06:23,840 original designers 184 00:06:27,510 --> 00:06:25,919 and then another thing that we have um 185 00:06:29,029 --> 00:06:27,520 talked about when it comes to satellite 186 00:06:31,830 --> 00:06:29,039 servicing is the international space 187 00:06:33,189 --> 00:06:31,840 station because it was quite a feat so 188 00:06:35,189 --> 00:06:33,199 can you talk about like where the 189 00:06:37,029 --> 00:06:35,199 international space station falls in on 190 00:06:38,870 --> 00:06:37,039 the timeline of you know the first 191 00:06:40,870 --> 00:06:38,880 servicing mission to hubble and some of 192 00:06:43,670 --> 00:06:40,880 the evolution of servicing some people 193 00:06:45,909 --> 00:06:43,680 will remember we were when when when we 194 00:06:47,990 --> 00:06:45,919 did the the first servicing mission to 195 00:06:49,909 --> 00:06:48,000 hubble we were looking at a space 196 00:06:52,230 --> 00:06:49,919 station but there was no concept of an 197 00:06:53,830 --> 00:06:52,240 international space station the actually 198 00:06:56,309 --> 00:06:53,840 the international space station came 199 00:06:58,070 --> 00:06:56,319 some time later but what it did allow us 200 00:07:00,230 --> 00:06:58,080 to do when we finally made the decision 201 00:07:02,950 --> 00:07:00,240 with our partner agencies and their five 202 00:07:04,710 --> 00:07:02,960 partner agencies including the u.s when 203 00:07:07,430 --> 00:07:04,720 the decision was finally made to fly 204 00:07:10,550 --> 00:07:07,440 this to to build the space station one 205 00:07:12,550 --> 00:07:10,560 of the the side benefits of it was it 206 00:07:14,950 --> 00:07:12,560 gave us a platform where we could 207 00:07:17,830 --> 00:07:14,960 actually demonstrate some of the new 208 00:07:19,670 --> 00:07:17,840 technologies in in robotics for example 209 00:07:22,230 --> 00:07:19,680 the robotic refueling mission uh 210 00:07:24,790 --> 00:07:22,240 something that was a a prize of the folk 211 00:07:27,110 --> 00:07:24,800 here at goddard and i understand we just 212 00:07:29,510 --> 00:07:27,120 launched rm3 213 00:07:32,150 --> 00:07:29,520 so we have now learned how to remove 214 00:07:34,309 --> 00:07:32,160 caps and replace caps to clip wires and 215 00:07:36,629 --> 00:07:34,319 twist wires and now we're getting ready 216 00:07:40,150 --> 00:07:36,639 to actually use the mission to 217 00:07:41,830 --> 00:07:40,160 refuel the landsat satellite maybe 218 00:07:44,550 --> 00:07:41,840 you know but we're going to demonstrate 219 00:07:46,390 --> 00:07:44,560 that we can in fact transfer cryogenic 220 00:07:48,309 --> 00:07:46,400 material and that will be probably the 221 00:07:50,710 --> 00:07:48,319 last step that we need to demonstrate 222 00:07:52,950 --> 00:07:50,720 our capability of doing a completely 223 00:07:54,710 --> 00:07:52,960 robotic mission to service 224 00:07:56,230 --> 00:07:54,720 a satellite on orbit which is something 225 00:07:58,309 --> 00:07:56,240 we really want to do the international 226 00:08:00,629 --> 00:07:58,319 space station presented the laboratory 227 00:08:02,950 --> 00:08:00,639 or the workshop uh where we could 228 00:08:05,110 --> 00:08:02,960 demonstrate that in space and assure 229 00:08:06,629 --> 00:08:05,120 ourselves that give us very good 230 00:08:07,909 --> 00:08:06,639 confidence that the things we saw here 231 00:08:09,270 --> 00:08:07,919 in the lab 232 00:08:10,790 --> 00:08:09,280 really were going to work when we got 233 00:08:13,029 --> 00:08:10,800 them into the microgravity environment 234 00:08:14,790 --> 00:08:13,039 of space that's great and i know we've 235 00:08:16,469 --> 00:08:14,800 got questions for you that are coming in 236 00:08:18,070 --> 00:08:16,479 but i understand that we're going to 237 00:08:19,189 --> 00:08:18,080 meet up with you again later so we're 238 00:08:21,189 --> 00:08:19,199 going to hold off and let people 239 00:08:23,830 --> 00:08:21,199 continue to send in your questions and 240 00:08:25,749 --> 00:08:23,840 uh charlie's got a robot demo for us 241 00:08:27,430 --> 00:08:25,759 well i'm hoping that you'll spend a lot 242 00:08:29,510 --> 00:08:27,440 of time with john and jeff hoffman and 243 00:08:31,749 --> 00:08:29,520 let them show us the tool and maybe run 244 00:08:33,269 --> 00:08:31,759 over so i don't get a chance to to screw 245 00:08:34,870 --> 00:08:33,279 up the robot but i'm really looking 246 00:08:36,630 --> 00:08:34,880 forward to it i don't as a pilot i 247 00:08:38,630 --> 00:08:36,640 didn't get an opportu opportunity to do 248 00:08:39,990 --> 00:08:38,640 too much robotic operation so i want to 249 00:08:41,190 --> 00:08:40,000 apply my trade down here and i'll see 250 00:08:42,790 --> 00:08:41,200 you later all right i'll catch you on 251 00:08:45,509 --> 00:08:42,800 the other side charlie thank you so much 252 00:08:47,030 --> 00:08:45,519 thank you so like he said we're gonna be 253 00:08:48,550 --> 00:08:47,040 down there later but send in your 254 00:08:50,630 --> 00:08:48,560 questions and we'll get to them 255 00:08:53,430 --> 00:08:50,640 throughout the show use the hashtag 256 00:08:54,389 --> 00:08:53,440 asknasa we're on twitter facebook 257 00:08:55,430 --> 00:08:54,399 instagram 258 00:08:57,829 --> 00:08:55,440 twitch 259 00:08:59,910 --> 00:08:57,839 so like charlie also mentioned we've got 260 00:09:02,550 --> 00:08:59,920 two of the hubble astronauts here with 261 00:09:05,590 --> 00:09:02,560 us today that actually went up and 262 00:09:07,430 --> 00:09:05,600 serviced the telescope multiple times 263 00:09:09,750 --> 00:09:07,440 we've got john grunsfeld and we've got 264 00:09:11,670 --> 00:09:09,760 jeff hoffman here today with us 265 00:09:13,750 --> 00:09:11,680 thanks so much for being here guys 266 00:09:16,150 --> 00:09:13,760 it's great to get back to goddard spent 267 00:09:17,829 --> 00:09:16,160 a lot of happy and busy hours here 268 00:09:20,550 --> 00:09:17,839 getting ready for the first hubble 269 00:09:22,310 --> 00:09:20,560 mission john spent even more time and i 270 00:09:24,310 --> 00:09:22,320 always loved to play with tools i'm sure 271 00:09:26,070 --> 00:09:24,320 you do and we've got a bunch of them 272 00:09:28,070 --> 00:09:26,080 over here it looks like you guys may 273 00:09:30,389 --> 00:09:28,080 know what to do with them so if you 274 00:09:32,630 --> 00:09:30,399 don't mind showing our viewers uh sure 275 00:09:34,949 --> 00:09:32,640 but um you know you see this sign it 276 00:09:37,190 --> 00:09:34,959 says esd work area and i don't want to 277 00:09:38,710 --> 00:09:37,200 shock you but you know how you rub on a 278 00:09:40,949 --> 00:09:38,720 rug and then you touch the door handle 279 00:09:42,310 --> 00:09:40,959 and you get the spark 280 00:09:44,230 --> 00:09:42,320 there's sensitive stuff back here 281 00:09:46,550 --> 00:09:44,240 electronics and the tools that we don't 282 00:09:49,110 --> 00:09:46,560 want to break so we're going to 283 00:09:51,190 --> 00:09:49,120 put on some wristbands to zap that 284 00:09:53,509 --> 00:09:51,200 electricity to a ground 285 00:09:54,949 --> 00:09:53,519 and also we don't want dust to get into 286 00:09:56,949 --> 00:09:54,959 the delic components so we're going to 287 00:09:59,910 --> 00:09:56,959 put on some smocks 288 00:10:03,110 --> 00:09:59,920 so we don't get over the wristbands 289 00:10:08,069 --> 00:10:05,190 awesome so now of course 290 00:10:10,389 --> 00:10:08,079 um when we were working with hubble and 291 00:10:11,350 --> 00:10:10,399 the instruments there was a lot of very 292 00:10:15,910 --> 00:10:11,360 very 293 00:10:17,509 --> 00:10:15,920 uh sensitive optics so contamination was 294 00:10:19,430 --> 00:10:17,519 absolutely critical we had to put on a 295 00:10:21,910 --> 00:10:19,440 lot more than just these smocks i mean 296 00:10:23,670 --> 00:10:21,920 full head gear i had a mustache at the 297 00:10:24,949 --> 00:10:23,680 time john still does that had to be 298 00:10:26,230 --> 00:10:24,959 covered up 299 00:10:27,829 --> 00:10:26,240 um 300 00:10:29,750 --> 00:10:27,839 and little details you never think about 301 00:10:32,230 --> 00:10:29,760 you you know for women 302 00:10:33,990 --> 00:10:32,240 maybe for men too no makeup because that 303 00:10:35,990 --> 00:10:34,000 makeup could contaminate the hubble 304 00:10:37,509 --> 00:10:36,000 optics 305 00:10:39,190 --> 00:10:37,519 i didn't wear any makeup it wasn't the 306 00:10:40,630 --> 00:10:39,200 problem 307 00:10:41,430 --> 00:10:40,640 you look great 308 00:10:43,269 --> 00:10:41,440 so 309 00:10:45,190 --> 00:10:43,279 while you guys are smocking up can you 310 00:10:46,710 --> 00:10:45,200 tell everybody about some of the 311 00:10:48,310 --> 00:10:46,720 missions that you guys were on with 312 00:10:51,269 --> 00:10:48,320 respect to hubble 313 00:10:53,430 --> 00:10:51,279 um i was on the very first servicing 314 00:10:56,069 --> 00:10:53,440 mission you know charlie bolden was on 315 00:10:57,750 --> 00:10:56,079 the mission that put hubble in orbit 316 00:10:58,630 --> 00:10:57,760 and then when we discovered that it 317 00:11:01,350 --> 00:10:58,640 couldn't 318 00:11:04,230 --> 00:11:01,360 focus properly 319 00:11:06,550 --> 00:11:04,240 that of course became a real disaster 320 00:11:08,790 --> 00:11:06,560 it had always been planned that every 321 00:11:11,509 --> 00:11:08,800 two or three years a crew would go up to 322 00:11:13,590 --> 00:11:11,519 service hubble and so we went up about 323 00:11:15,910 --> 00:11:13,600 two and a half years after hubble was 324 00:11:17,910 --> 00:11:15,920 launched but at that point 325 00:11:19,990 --> 00:11:17,920 uh the purpose of the mission was not 326 00:11:20,949 --> 00:11:20,000 just to put in a new instrument which 327 00:11:23,269 --> 00:11:20,959 had all 328 00:11:25,030 --> 00:11:23,279 always been in the plan but actually to 329 00:11:26,550 --> 00:11:25,040 fix all of the optics plus there were 330 00:11:28,790 --> 00:11:26,560 about a dozen other things that had 331 00:11:30,949 --> 00:11:28,800 broken on hubble and and had to be fixed 332 00:11:32,870 --> 00:11:30,959 so it ended up being 333 00:11:37,750 --> 00:11:32,880 at the time the most complex shuttle 334 00:11:41,990 --> 00:11:39,910 given the success of it i think it 335 00:11:45,269 --> 00:11:42,000 really gave people the confidence that 336 00:11:47,670 --> 00:11:45,279 that complex servicing tasks were 337 00:11:49,269 --> 00:11:47,680 possible and and i think led the way to 338 00:11:51,750 --> 00:11:49,279 some of the even more complex things 339 00:11:53,590 --> 00:11:51,760 that that john and his crewmates did on 340 00:11:55,430 --> 00:11:53,600 on some of their hubble missions so 341 00:11:57,509 --> 00:11:55,440 which missions were you on john so i was 342 00:12:01,110 --> 00:11:57,519 on three hubble missions the last three 343 00:12:04,790 --> 00:12:01,120 in fact uh we did a mission in in 1999 344 00:12:06,550 --> 00:12:04,800 and 2002 and then most recent one 2009 345 00:12:08,389 --> 00:12:06,560 and amazingly hubble is still working 346 00:12:10,389 --> 00:12:08,399 great and i think well they left it as 347 00:12:12,629 --> 00:12:10,399 good as new when they when they fixed it 348 00:12:14,550 --> 00:12:12,639 i think what we learned is that almost 349 00:12:16,550 --> 00:12:14,560 anything you can do on the ground you 350 00:12:18,389 --> 00:12:16,560 know maybe wearing you know these suits 351 00:12:20,550 --> 00:12:18,399 and and gloves to protect the hardware 352 00:12:23,030 --> 00:12:20,560 but anything you can do on the ground 353 00:12:24,710 --> 00:12:23,040 we can learn how to do in the big bulky 354 00:12:26,150 --> 00:12:24,720 spacesuits of course it takes us longer 355 00:12:28,470 --> 00:12:26,160 to get those spacesuits on than the 356 00:12:30,710 --> 00:12:28,480 smocks but anything you can do on the 357 00:12:33,509 --> 00:12:30,720 ground you can find a way to do it in 358 00:12:35,910 --> 00:12:33,519 space if you have the right tools 359 00:12:37,750 --> 00:12:35,920 so that's probably a good queue for us 360 00:12:39,670 --> 00:12:37,760 to go in and show the people what it is 361 00:12:42,069 --> 00:12:39,680 that i checked your static out you're 362 00:12:44,710 --> 00:12:42,079 good give give the people plugged in 363 00:12:47,509 --> 00:12:44,720 here we're grounded 364 00:12:49,030 --> 00:12:47,519 awesome so i guess uh we'll start on the 365 00:12:50,949 --> 00:12:49,040 far side with jeff since you were on 366 00:12:52,710 --> 00:12:50,959 that first servicing mission here any of 367 00:12:54,710 --> 00:12:52,720 the tools on this table were they used 368 00:12:56,230 --> 00:12:54,720 for that well this one i have fond 369 00:12:59,269 --> 00:12:56,240 memories of the 370 00:13:02,470 --> 00:12:59,279 this of course they're all power tools 371 00:13:05,590 --> 00:13:02,480 um we did have manual tools and on a few 372 00:13:07,430 --> 00:13:05,600 occasions we did use manual tools but 373 00:13:10,069 --> 00:13:07,440 power tools you can get the job done so 374 00:13:13,110 --> 00:13:10,079 much faster and and when you're 375 00:13:14,550 --> 00:13:13,120 on an eva mission like this 376 00:13:17,269 --> 00:13:14,560 really 377 00:13:19,750 --> 00:13:17,279 astronaut time outside doing useful work 378 00:13:22,389 --> 00:13:19,760 in a space suit is that's the most 379 00:13:23,910 --> 00:13:22,399 valuable consumable that you have and so 380 00:13:25,910 --> 00:13:23,920 anything you can do to speed up the 381 00:13:27,670 --> 00:13:25,920 process so we so we do use a lot of 382 00:13:30,710 --> 00:13:27,680 power tools now this was first 383 00:13:33,030 --> 00:13:30,720 generation for hubble um we we would 384 00:13:34,870 --> 00:13:33,040 have tool carriers and and so i could 385 00:13:36,550 --> 00:13:34,880 plug this in of course it's pretty heavy 386 00:13:38,069 --> 00:13:36,560 now but it doesn't weigh anything up 387 00:13:40,069 --> 00:13:38,079 there but 388 00:13:41,590 --> 00:13:40,079 everything has to be 389 00:13:43,430 --> 00:13:41,600 tethered 390 00:13:46,230 --> 00:13:43,440 and of course this has a 391 00:13:49,829 --> 00:13:46,240 an interface that you can put long 392 00:13:51,509 --> 00:13:49,839 bolt drivers and uh little pip pins and 393 00:13:54,629 --> 00:13:51,519 and every one of those 394 00:13:57,509 --> 00:13:54,639 uh drivers had to have a a separate 395 00:13:59,750 --> 00:13:57,519 tether just managing all the tethers it 396 00:14:00,949 --> 00:13:59,760 really took a lot of time but 397 00:14:02,949 --> 00:14:00,959 you can't afford to lose you can't 398 00:14:04,470 --> 00:14:02,959 afford to lose a tool and boy you know 399 00:14:06,629 --> 00:14:04,480 when we were doing all the training in 400 00:14:08,790 --> 00:14:06,639 the pool if if your instructors saw that 401 00:14:11,110 --> 00:14:08,800 you hadn't done a tether properly they 402 00:14:13,829 --> 00:14:11,120 they'd get right on your case the other 403 00:14:16,150 --> 00:14:13,839 thing that that we often used a torque 404 00:14:19,269 --> 00:14:16,160 limiter which would of course go on the 405 00:14:21,590 --> 00:14:19,279 end of of this uh between this and the 406 00:14:24,470 --> 00:14:21,600 actual bolt that you were working with a 407 00:14:26,150 --> 00:14:24,480 telescope and and the reason for that is 408 00:14:27,110 --> 00:14:26,160 um 409 00:14:29,829 --> 00:14:27,120 you 410 00:14:31,910 --> 00:14:29,839 want to just put the bolt in with enough 411 00:14:34,710 --> 00:14:31,920 force that it won't come out but you 412 00:14:37,750 --> 00:14:34,720 don't want to over drive it so that it 413 00:14:39,350 --> 00:14:37,760 might get stuck or worst case 414 00:14:41,350 --> 00:14:39,360 you could actually 415 00:14:43,430 --> 00:14:41,360 fracture the bolt in which case you're 416 00:14:46,310 --> 00:14:43,440 never going to get it out so we were 417 00:14:48,069 --> 00:14:46,320 very careful for every job we had uh 418 00:14:49,670 --> 00:14:48,079 there would be an indication in in the 419 00:14:51,590 --> 00:14:49,680 checklist you know set your torque 420 00:14:54,470 --> 00:14:51,600 limiter to such and such a 421 00:14:56,629 --> 00:14:54,480 uh a level and and then chris clark is 422 00:14:59,910 --> 00:14:56,639 how hard you turn something right and 423 00:15:03,509 --> 00:14:59,920 and then also um you know 424 00:15:06,150 --> 00:15:03,519 19 turns clockwise and and 425 00:15:07,910 --> 00:15:06,160 just to let the people 20 not 18. and 426 00:15:09,829 --> 00:15:07,920 and we would actually count them out you 427 00:15:12,629 --> 00:15:09,839 know i'd be there you know doing the 428 00:15:13,590 --> 00:15:12,639 thing and you know it's one 429 00:15:15,509 --> 00:15:13,600 two 430 00:15:17,110 --> 00:15:15,519 and so on that so that the people on the 431 00:15:18,790 --> 00:15:17,120 ground could really follow what we were 432 00:15:20,470 --> 00:15:18,800 doing and that was critical 433 00:15:22,629 --> 00:15:20,480 but then of course this was the first 434 00:15:23,910 --> 00:15:22,639 generation and and when you guys went up 435 00:15:25,670 --> 00:15:23,920 you had 436 00:15:27,430 --> 00:15:25,680 some more developments and and that's 437 00:15:29,430 --> 00:15:27,440 one of the features of the hubble 438 00:15:32,629 --> 00:15:29,440 program at large is as astronauts we got 439 00:15:35,110 --> 00:15:32,639 to work on a daily basis with engineers 440 00:15:37,110 --> 00:15:35,120 and exchange ideas and try things some 441 00:15:40,069 --> 00:15:37,120 things work some things didn't and so 442 00:15:43,030 --> 00:15:40,079 this is the astronaut death ray laser 443 00:15:44,230 --> 00:15:43,040 no this is a power tool that's the next 444 00:15:46,310 --> 00:15:44,240 generation 445 00:15:47,749 --> 00:15:46,320 and this may look a little more like a 446 00:15:49,829 --> 00:15:47,759 power screwdriver that you might have at 447 00:15:52,230 --> 00:15:49,839 home and it incorporates the features 448 00:15:54,389 --> 00:15:52,240 and lessons this was the big battery for 449 00:15:56,310 --> 00:15:54,399 this and here you're all built battery's 450 00:15:58,710 --> 00:15:56,320 now in here the torque limiter is in 451 00:16:00,389 --> 00:15:58,720 here and this has electronics that 452 00:16:03,910 --> 00:16:00,399 counts all the turns and tells you what 453 00:16:05,910 --> 00:16:03,920 they are records what was torqued uh and 454 00:16:07,509 --> 00:16:05,920 so this is now the standard work tool 455 00:16:09,829 --> 00:16:07,519 for astronauts in space now it's pretty 456 00:16:13,189 --> 00:16:09,839 heavy here but in space everything 457 00:16:15,030 --> 00:16:13,199 floats so it's nice 458 00:16:16,790 --> 00:16:15,040 this is a tool that's used on virtually 459 00:16:18,710 --> 00:16:16,800 every international space station 460 00:16:21,030 --> 00:16:18,720 spacewalk and so what we developed for 461 00:16:23,430 --> 00:16:21,040 hubble is now used across the space 462 00:16:25,509 --> 00:16:23,440 program but it doesn't necessarily work 463 00:16:26,790 --> 00:16:25,519 for everything you know this was still 464 00:16:28,230 --> 00:16:26,800 too big 465 00:16:30,310 --> 00:16:28,240 and didn't have the capabilities we 466 00:16:32,550 --> 00:16:30,320 needed for some other repairs 467 00:16:34,069 --> 00:16:32,560 that we did on the last mission i had to 468 00:16:36,550 --> 00:16:34,079 remove 469 00:16:38,230 --> 00:16:36,560 a lot of tiny screws in space and what 470 00:16:39,910 --> 00:16:38,240 do you need to remove tiny screws in 471 00:16:41,829 --> 00:16:39,920 space 472 00:16:44,150 --> 00:16:41,839 well you need a tiny tiny screwdriver 473 00:16:46,470 --> 00:16:44,160 yeah we we had that problem exactly on 474 00:16:48,790 --> 00:16:46,480 the first mission with with the our our 475 00:16:50,470 --> 00:16:48,800 final eva task on the solar ray drive 476 00:16:52,710 --> 00:16:50,480 unit where we had little two millimeter 477 00:16:54,949 --> 00:16:52,720 screws that we couldn't that we just 478 00:16:56,389 --> 00:16:54,959 couldn't use this for it it was too big 479 00:16:58,230 --> 00:16:56,399 so we developed what's called the mini 480 00:17:00,069 --> 00:16:58,240 power tool now it's not that many but 481 00:17:01,990 --> 00:17:00,079 it's a lot smaller than these others and 482 00:17:02,870 --> 00:17:02,000 so we have an evolution of tools through 483 00:17:04,630 --> 00:17:02,880 time 484 00:17:06,150 --> 00:17:04,640 that allowed us to do the repairs you 485 00:17:08,069 --> 00:17:06,160 know we all think about these amazing 486 00:17:10,630 --> 00:17:08,079 hubble images jeff and i are both 487 00:17:12,630 --> 00:17:10,640 astronomers and so we love the science 488 00:17:14,230 --> 00:17:12,640 we wouldn't have any of that unless on 489 00:17:15,829 --> 00:17:14,240 the first servicing mission they'd 490 00:17:17,110 --> 00:17:15,839 repaired the optics and put new 491 00:17:18,630 --> 00:17:17,120 instruments in 492 00:17:21,350 --> 00:17:18,640 and on every mission we put new 493 00:17:23,750 --> 00:17:22,230 and 494 00:17:24,949 --> 00:17:23,760 of course 495 00:17:27,350 --> 00:17:24,959 every 496 00:17:29,750 --> 00:17:27,360 new mission we would build on the 497 00:17:31,750 --> 00:17:29,760 capabilities that had been dis 498 00:17:32,549 --> 00:17:31,760 demonstrated on the previous mission so 499 00:17:34,470 --> 00:17:32,559 that 500 00:17:36,390 --> 00:17:34,480 um you know by the time you got to the 501 00:17:38,230 --> 00:17:36,400 final mission which i think you're going 502 00:17:41,270 --> 00:17:38,240 to talk about this 503 00:17:43,430 --> 00:17:41,280 acs but you did things that had people 504 00:17:45,190 --> 00:17:43,440 suggested that they could have been done 505 00:17:46,710 --> 00:17:45,200 at the first servicing mission they'd 506 00:17:48,789 --> 00:17:46,720 have gotten kicked out of the room it's 507 00:17:51,750 --> 00:17:48,799 you know that's just way beyond scope of 508 00:17:54,230 --> 00:17:51,760 what anybody can do but we did it yep 509 00:17:55,990 --> 00:17:54,240 typically if a instrument failed we'd 510 00:17:58,310 --> 00:17:56,000 bring up a whole new instrument the size 511 00:18:00,070 --> 00:17:58,320 of a big bulky refrigerator 512 00:18:01,830 --> 00:18:00,080 on the last mission we couldn't do that 513 00:18:03,909 --> 00:18:01,840 we brought up one new instrument but we 514 00:18:05,909 --> 00:18:03,919 had two that were failed and we were 515 00:18:08,789 --> 00:18:05,919 able to actually to repair it with a 516 00:18:11,110 --> 00:18:08,799 bunch of very special tools 517 00:18:14,470 --> 00:18:11,120 that allowed us to you know this tool 518 00:18:16,789 --> 00:18:14,480 allowed us to cut a metal plate 519 00:18:18,630 --> 00:18:16,799 to remove all those tiny screws without 520 00:18:20,789 --> 00:18:18,640 having them float away we used a 521 00:18:22,950 --> 00:18:20,799 specialized piece of equipment that kept 522 00:18:25,750 --> 00:18:22,960 the screws attached 523 00:18:27,669 --> 00:18:25,760 so that we could remove all those screws 524 00:18:31,110 --> 00:18:27,679 get a metal plate off 525 00:18:33,190 --> 00:18:31,120 maybe i can get the plate off maybe not 526 00:18:35,510 --> 00:18:33,200 do you have any fingernails i have very 527 00:18:38,310 --> 00:18:35,520 small fingernails we can always turn it 528 00:18:39,750 --> 00:18:38,320 over okay 529 00:18:41,590 --> 00:18:39,760 you can't do that you cannot do that in 530 00:18:42,950 --> 00:18:41,600 space 531 00:18:44,870 --> 00:18:42,960 there were four circuit cards and we 532 00:18:47,430 --> 00:18:44,880 were able to pull those out 533 00:18:49,350 --> 00:18:47,440 now this is the idea of being able to 534 00:18:51,909 --> 00:18:49,360 work on the level of 535 00:18:53,140 --> 00:18:51,919 removing and replacing circuit boards 536 00:18:54,470 --> 00:18:53,150 it would just would have been 537 00:18:56,549 --> 00:18:54,480 [Music] 538 00:18:58,230 --> 00:18:56,559 unthinkable at when people first started 539 00:19:00,549 --> 00:18:58,240 to think about what astronauts could do 540 00:19:02,549 --> 00:19:00,559 in servicing but as we gradually got 541 00:19:03,590 --> 00:19:02,559 more confidence one mission after the 542 00:19:05,830 --> 00:19:03,600 other 543 00:19:07,909 --> 00:19:05,840 you actually did it and each mission we 544 00:19:10,230 --> 00:19:07,919 did try things that folks said no you 545 00:19:11,590 --> 00:19:10,240 can't do that we would go do it and so 546 00:19:13,430 --> 00:19:11,600 this is sort of state of the art for 547 00:19:14,950 --> 00:19:13,440 people in space now 548 00:19:16,710 --> 00:19:14,960 and something that i think 549 00:19:17,909 --> 00:19:16,720 in the realm of today 550 00:19:20,150 --> 00:19:17,919 you know you really need the human 551 00:19:22,150 --> 00:19:20,160 dexterity to do 552 00:19:24,710 --> 00:19:22,160 but i think a lot of the tasks that we 553 00:19:26,230 --> 00:19:24,720 did removing the large bulky objects 554 00:19:27,750 --> 00:19:26,240 today we could do that with robots 555 00:19:29,990 --> 00:19:27,760 probably could our robots have gotten a 556 00:19:30,870 --> 00:19:30,000 lot more sophisticated and of course 557 00:19:33,270 --> 00:19:30,880 they're 558 00:19:36,150 --> 00:19:33,280 working on robotic servicing here at 559 00:19:39,430 --> 00:19:36,160 goddard now for this is the landsat and 560 00:19:40,390 --> 00:19:39,440 refuel it and yep you know frankly i 561 00:19:42,390 --> 00:19:40,400 mean i 562 00:19:43,909 --> 00:19:42,400 i love putting on a spacesuit and going 563 00:19:46,310 --> 00:19:43,919 outside but if there's something that 564 00:19:49,430 --> 00:19:46,320 can be done by a robot we ought to let 565 00:19:51,270 --> 00:19:49,440 robots do it uh design the the servicing 566 00:19:53,510 --> 00:19:51,280 for robots and then if you run into 567 00:19:55,510 --> 00:19:53,520 problems that the robots can't handle 568 00:19:56,870 --> 00:19:55,520 you've got a simpler interface for the 569 00:19:58,789 --> 00:19:56,880 people who 570 00:20:01,430 --> 00:19:58,799 have to actually go and do it and if you 571 00:20:03,830 --> 00:20:01,440 look at the robotic tools 572 00:20:05,590 --> 00:20:03,840 they look kind of like evolutionary 573 00:20:07,669 --> 00:20:05,600 tools from the hand tools that we use 574 00:20:09,909 --> 00:20:07,679 they're just built into the hand of the 575 00:20:11,590 --> 00:20:09,919 robot so i i i'm really excited about 576 00:20:12,870 --> 00:20:11,600 that development 577 00:20:14,230 --> 00:20:12,880 i mean we 578 00:20:17,350 --> 00:20:14,240 uh 579 00:20:20,470 --> 00:20:17,360 the the idea of being able to recycle 580 00:20:22,070 --> 00:20:20,480 satellites and and to improve the 581 00:20:23,350 --> 00:20:22,080 capabilities which is what we've done 582 00:20:24,230 --> 00:20:23,360 with hubble 583 00:20:27,350 --> 00:20:24,240 um 584 00:20:29,590 --> 00:20:27,360 it it's been a game changer for hubble 585 00:20:31,750 --> 00:20:29,600 and uh hopefully as we go into the 586 00:20:33,190 --> 00:20:31,760 future in the latter part of the 21st 587 00:20:35,510 --> 00:20:33,200 century that's going to be standard 588 00:20:37,430 --> 00:20:35,520 operating procedure it's so much more 589 00:20:39,590 --> 00:20:37,440 efficient makes a lot of sense and of 590 00:20:41,750 --> 00:20:39,600 course as we go out and explore planets 591 00:20:43,350 --> 00:20:41,760 mars you're going to want robots 592 00:20:44,549 --> 00:20:43,360 out exploring before we can get there 593 00:20:47,270 --> 00:20:44,559 even when we're there and you'll need 594 00:20:49,190 --> 00:20:47,280 robots to repair the robots so 595 00:20:50,470 --> 00:20:49,200 that was awesome thank you so much for 596 00:20:52,310 --> 00:20:50,480 sharing those tools and we've got a 597 00:20:53,909 --> 00:20:52,320 bunch of questions coming in from social 598 00:20:55,750 --> 00:20:53,919 media i know you're sending them in on 599 00:20:56,789 --> 00:20:55,760 facebook and instagram and twitter and 600 00:20:59,510 --> 00:20:56,799 twitch and 601 00:21:01,750 --> 00:20:59,520 we've got some good ones um so jeff the 602 00:21:03,669 --> 00:21:01,760 first question i have for you was 603 00:21:05,510 --> 00:21:03,679 what was the experience kind of 604 00:21:08,070 --> 00:21:05,520 emotionally of being on the first 605 00:21:09,590 --> 00:21:08,080 servicing mission 606 00:21:11,750 --> 00:21:09,600 of course 607 00:21:14,950 --> 00:21:11,760 everybody knew how critical 608 00:21:16,870 --> 00:21:14,960 this situation was and as an astronomer 609 00:21:18,630 --> 00:21:16,880 i had lots of 610 00:21:20,470 --> 00:21:18,640 astronomer friends 611 00:21:22,950 --> 00:21:20,480 who would call us up and say you know 612 00:21:25,110 --> 00:21:22,960 can nasa really fix this you know people 613 00:21:27,270 --> 00:21:25,120 who had devoted large parts of their 614 00:21:29,590 --> 00:21:27,280 career to hubble so you know first of 615 00:21:32,549 --> 00:21:29,600 all it was really exciting 616 00:21:34,470 --> 00:21:32,559 being put on the crew 617 00:21:36,950 --> 00:21:34,480 this was a primo mission everybody knew 618 00:21:39,110 --> 00:21:36,960 how important it was and then 619 00:21:40,310 --> 00:21:39,120 you know as an astronomer and an 620 00:21:42,310 --> 00:21:40,320 astronaut 621 00:21:44,470 --> 00:21:42,320 to and you must have had this 622 00:21:47,110 --> 00:21:44,480 you know to be able to put 623 00:21:49,190 --> 00:21:47,120 our two hands on the greatest telescope 624 00:21:50,789 --> 00:21:49,200 in the world up in space 625 00:21:52,390 --> 00:21:50,799 i mean you know that's something i'll 626 00:21:54,390 --> 00:21:52,400 never forget that that was that's the 627 00:21:55,750 --> 00:21:54,400 light i think i saw your handprints on 628 00:21:57,110 --> 00:21:55,760 on the hubble 629 00:21:59,430 --> 00:21:57,120 but i did i did have a similar 630 00:22:00,470 --> 00:21:59,440 experience uh you know we got up to 631 00:22:02,470 --> 00:22:00,480 hubble 632 00:22:04,390 --> 00:22:02,480 and it was my third space flight but my 633 00:22:07,110 --> 00:22:04,400 first spacewalk you had already done a 634 00:22:08,630 --> 00:22:07,120 spacewalk yeah and i was on the robotic 635 00:22:10,310 --> 00:22:08,640 arm and i was being moved back towards 636 00:22:12,310 --> 00:22:10,320 the hubble and there was just a moment 637 00:22:14,710 --> 00:22:12,320 there you know which is the pinch me 638 00:22:15,990 --> 00:22:14,720 moment where i reached out with a finger 639 00:22:17,510 --> 00:22:16,000 of course i'm wearing a glove and a 640 00:22:18,870 --> 00:22:17,520 spacesuit but i reached out with a 641 00:22:20,390 --> 00:22:18,880 finger and touched the hubble just to 642 00:22:22,630 --> 00:22:20,400 make sure it was all real 643 00:22:25,350 --> 00:22:22,640 yeah i mean it's it's an 644 00:22:28,470 --> 00:22:25,360 it's a beautiful telescope that it 645 00:22:30,870 --> 00:22:28,480 it's covered with reflective uh material 646 00:22:32,549 --> 00:22:30,880 that reflects the colors of the earth 647 00:22:34,950 --> 00:22:32,559 below it and 648 00:22:36,950 --> 00:22:34,960 uh i mean 649 00:22:39,590 --> 00:22:36,960 for those of us who 650 00:22:41,510 --> 00:22:39,600 got to play a part in the history of the 651 00:22:43,270 --> 00:22:41,520 hubble space telescope i think it for 652 00:22:44,549 --> 00:22:43,280 all of us it was a highlight of our 653 00:22:46,310 --> 00:22:44,559 careers 654 00:22:47,350 --> 00:22:46,320 that's great we've got one more question 655 00:22:50,230 --> 00:22:47,360 and 656 00:22:52,870 --> 00:22:50,240 i'll send it over to john so you did it 657 00:22:55,190 --> 00:22:52,880 three times but how long does it take to 658 00:22:59,029 --> 00:22:55,200 get to hubble 659 00:23:00,710 --> 00:22:59,039 well that's a great question because 660 00:23:02,870 --> 00:23:00,720 launching from planet earth to get to 661 00:23:05,669 --> 00:23:02,880 earth orbit only takes eight and a half 662 00:23:07,990 --> 00:23:05,679 minutes kind of a rough ride 663 00:23:09,750 --> 00:23:08,000 but once you get there it took us a 664 00:23:10,630 --> 00:23:09,760 couple of days to reconfigure the 665 00:23:13,190 --> 00:23:10,640 shuttle 666 00:23:15,350 --> 00:23:13,200 and to chase down hubble so that on the 667 00:23:17,350 --> 00:23:15,360 third day we grabbed the hubble with the 668 00:23:19,110 --> 00:23:17,360 robotic arm of the shuttle 669 00:23:20,870 --> 00:23:19,120 and put it into the payload bay so we 670 00:23:22,630 --> 00:23:20,880 could work on it so it takes about three 671 00:23:25,190 --> 00:23:22,640 days and then on day four we started the 672 00:23:26,870 --> 00:23:25,200 space walks they keep you busy up there 673 00:23:28,230 --> 00:23:26,880 yep oh it's a very busy and it's 674 00:23:30,230 --> 00:23:28,240 exciting when you're doing that 675 00:23:32,870 --> 00:23:30,240 rendezvous you know when you when you 676 00:23:35,110 --> 00:23:32,880 first you get your first glimpse of the 677 00:23:37,430 --> 00:23:35,120 telescope and it's just a little point 678 00:23:39,750 --> 00:23:37,440 of light and then every orbit you get a 679 00:23:42,630 --> 00:23:39,760 little bit closer and then you can start 680 00:23:44,710 --> 00:23:42,640 to see its form and it gets bigger and 681 00:23:47,350 --> 00:23:44,720 when it finally gets close to you it's 682 00:23:50,230 --> 00:23:47,360 big you know 50 feet from top to bottom 683 00:23:52,470 --> 00:23:50,240 and it's just really exciting 684 00:23:54,549 --> 00:23:52,480 thank you guys so much for being here so 685 00:23:56,390 --> 00:23:54,559 everybody if you just tuned in 686 00:23:58,470 --> 00:23:56,400 we have hubble astronauts we got jeff 687 00:24:00,470 --> 00:23:58,480 hoffman we got john grunsfeld talking 688 00:24:02,870 --> 00:24:00,480 about hubble tools thank you so much 689 00:24:04,950 --> 00:24:02,880 both our pleasure we love it that's been 690 00:24:06,870 --> 00:24:04,960 fun with real nostalgia getting to pick 691 00:24:08,789 --> 00:24:06,880 these things up again wish i could take 692 00:24:10,310 --> 00:24:08,799 it into space but we'll leave that for 693 00:24:11,909 --> 00:24:10,320 the younger guys i guess we'll work on 694 00:24:15,110 --> 00:24:11,919 that we'll see what we can do we'll 695 00:24:16,789 --> 00:24:15,120 phone a friend so we're here in the 696 00:24:20,470 --> 00:24:16,799 robotics 697 00:24:22,470 --> 00:24:20,480 you know area for goddard and 698 00:24:24,149 --> 00:24:22,480 we talked about hubble and we talked 699 00:24:25,350 --> 00:24:24,159 about servicing and we talked about 700 00:24:26,230 --> 00:24:25,360 humans 701 00:24:28,630 --> 00:24:26,240 but 702 00:24:31,110 --> 00:24:28,640 now we're ready to talk about the future 703 00:24:34,230 --> 00:24:31,120 and what servicing may look like 704 00:24:36,070 --> 00:24:34,240 from here on out and to do that 705 00:24:37,190 --> 00:24:36,080 we've got the folks who actually work on 706 00:24:38,710 --> 00:24:37,200 some of these 707 00:24:41,110 --> 00:24:38,720 instruments that you're seeing in here 708 00:24:42,630 --> 00:24:41,120 and today with me i've got ben reed from 709 00:24:44,390 --> 00:24:42,640 satellite servicing thanks so much for 710 00:24:47,269 --> 00:24:44,400 being here ben of course 711 00:24:51,029 --> 00:24:47,279 so let's talk about robotic servicing 712 00:24:52,630 --> 00:24:51,039 what are the advantages of using robots 713 00:24:55,430 --> 00:24:52,640 so 714 00:24:58,950 --> 00:24:55,440 the advantages of using robots is the 715 00:25:01,029 --> 00:24:58,960 same as using robots here on the ground 716 00:25:02,549 --> 00:25:01,039 we like to use them in places the the 717 00:25:04,950 --> 00:25:02,559 traditional three that people like to 718 00:25:07,750 --> 00:25:04,960 say is dumb dirty and dangerous 719 00:25:10,630 --> 00:25:07,760 so let's focus on the dangerous 720 00:25:13,029 --> 00:25:10,640 astronauts are absolutely fabulous i i 721 00:25:14,630 --> 00:25:13,039 love the astronaut core 722 00:25:17,190 --> 00:25:14,640 unfortunately we don't have the 723 00:25:19,750 --> 00:25:17,200 technology to protect astronauts from 724 00:25:21,830 --> 00:25:19,760 radiation in 725 00:25:23,830 --> 00:25:21,840 for example polar orbit around the north 726 00:25:26,470 --> 00:25:23,840 and south pole of the earth 727 00:25:28,630 --> 00:25:26,480 radiation is worse there than it is um 728 00:25:29,990 --> 00:25:28,640 at the lower latitudes 729 00:25:31,190 --> 00:25:30,000 as a result 730 00:25:33,269 --> 00:25:31,200 we can't 731 00:25:34,710 --> 00:25:33,279 work on missions sending astronauts to 732 00:25:36,710 --> 00:25:34,720 polar orbit 733 00:25:39,350 --> 00:25:36,720 it wouldn't be good for their health so 734 00:25:41,350 --> 00:25:39,360 we're not considering it but that is a 735 00:25:43,750 --> 00:25:41,360 ripe opportunity to develop robotic 736 00:25:46,950 --> 00:25:43,760 technology because there are a lot of 737 00:25:48,630 --> 00:25:46,960 satellites in low earth orbit polar leo 738 00:25:50,870 --> 00:25:48,640 polar 739 00:25:53,750 --> 00:25:50,880 in fact one satellite that has been 740 00:25:55,590 --> 00:25:53,760 there since 1999 is a satellite called 741 00:25:57,669 --> 00:25:55,600 landsat 7 and you've been looking at 742 00:26:00,230 --> 00:25:57,679 part of it in this feed 743 00:26:01,269 --> 00:26:00,240 what you see here is a full-scale 744 00:26:04,149 --> 00:26:01,279 mock-up 745 00:26:07,029 --> 00:26:04,159 of landsat 7 746 00:26:08,870 --> 00:26:07,039 about 22 feet long 747 00:26:11,029 --> 00:26:08,880 and we're not considering sending 748 00:26:13,110 --> 00:26:11,039 astronauts to work on a satellite in 749 00:26:15,350 --> 00:26:13,120 that location because of the environment 750 00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:15,360 so that is a perfect opportunity to 751 00:26:20,390 --> 00:26:17,520 develop robotic technology to be able to 752 00:26:23,830 --> 00:26:20,400 service a satellite like landsat 7 so we 753 00:26:25,029 --> 00:26:23,840 absolutely do not view it as robots or 754 00:26:28,310 --> 00:26:25,039 astronauts 755 00:26:30,630 --> 00:26:28,320 each are unique each have capabilities 756 00:26:33,190 --> 00:26:30,640 that the other cannot duplicate we use 757 00:26:35,590 --> 00:26:33,200 them for different jobs 758 00:26:37,350 --> 00:26:35,600 awesome so here in the robotics 759 00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:37,360 operations center you've got a couple 760 00:26:40,870 --> 00:26:39,360 different of ways that you simulate 761 00:26:42,390 --> 00:26:40,880 being in space 762 00:26:45,590 --> 00:26:42,400 can you explain to our audience what 763 00:26:47,110 --> 00:26:45,600 some of those ways are sure 764 00:26:49,830 --> 00:26:47,120 so 765 00:26:51,990 --> 00:26:49,840 we have a vacuum chamber down the hall 766 00:26:53,510 --> 00:26:52,000 in this complex here at goddard space 767 00:26:55,830 --> 00:26:53,520 flight center and that's where we 768 00:26:58,230 --> 00:26:55,840 simulate the vacuum of space 769 00:27:00,630 --> 00:26:58,240 in this room we need to simulate other 770 00:27:01,909 --> 00:27:00,640 aspects of space so what is another 771 00:27:04,149 --> 00:27:01,919 aspect 772 00:27:06,390 --> 00:27:04,159 it's dark if the sun's not shining on 773 00:27:07,669 --> 00:27:06,400 you because you're on the the night side 774 00:27:10,310 --> 00:27:07,679 of earth 775 00:27:12,549 --> 00:27:10,320 space is very very very dark as you all 776 00:27:13,990 --> 00:27:12,559 know when you go outside at night so 777 00:27:15,669 --> 00:27:14,000 that is why you see all these black 778 00:27:17,110 --> 00:27:15,679 curtains everywhere is we need to 779 00:27:19,750 --> 00:27:17,120 simulate 780 00:27:21,750 --> 00:27:19,760 a a robot 781 00:27:23,909 --> 00:27:21,760 working on a satellite 782 00:27:26,070 --> 00:27:23,919 in the absence of light so we do lights 783 00:27:28,549 --> 00:27:26,080 out testing in this laboratory we kill 784 00:27:31,750 --> 00:27:28,559 all the lights and if you look at below 785 00:27:34,470 --> 00:27:31,760 the mock-up of landsat 7 these these 786 00:27:37,269 --> 00:27:34,480 lights that you see there that is the 787 00:27:39,350 --> 00:27:37,279 exact same lighting that we would use 788 00:27:43,029 --> 00:27:39,360 during a robotic surfacing mission of 789 00:27:45,830 --> 00:27:43,039 landsat 7 illuminating the work site 790 00:27:47,590 --> 00:27:45,840 just as it would be illuminated in space 791 00:27:49,190 --> 00:27:47,600 so that's one aspect of how we simulate 792 00:27:54,310 --> 00:27:49,200 space 793 00:27:56,870 --> 00:27:54,320 need to simulate so that we can be 794 00:27:58,549 --> 00:27:56,880 testing in as realistic an environment 795 00:28:01,510 --> 00:27:58,559 as possible 796 00:28:03,830 --> 00:28:01,520 is gravity now it is very difficult to 797 00:28:04,710 --> 00:28:03,840 turn off gravity in fact no one knows 798 00:28:06,630 --> 00:28:04,720 how 799 00:28:10,149 --> 00:28:06,640 but we can simulate 800 00:28:12,310 --> 00:28:10,159 no gravity by uh a robotic platform that 801 00:28:14,389 --> 00:28:12,320 can move objects around as if they were 802 00:28:16,389 --> 00:28:14,399 floating in space and let me show you 803 00:28:18,389 --> 00:28:16,399 what ours looks like 804 00:28:19,590 --> 00:28:18,399 so come with me this way aaron 805 00:28:21,029 --> 00:28:19,600 i'm with you 806 00:28:23,590 --> 00:28:21,039 all right 807 00:28:29,029 --> 00:28:26,950 first let me back up a half a step and 808 00:28:31,510 --> 00:28:29,039 point out the fact that 809 00:28:34,630 --> 00:28:31,520 every satellite in space at one point or 810 00:28:36,789 --> 00:28:34,640 another was blasted up by rocket 811 00:28:38,470 --> 00:28:36,799 so you could imagine a rocket and a 812 00:28:40,149 --> 00:28:38,480 satellite you need to attach the two 813 00:28:40,950 --> 00:28:40,159 together so the satellite doesn't fall 814 00:28:43,830 --> 00:28:40,960 off 815 00:28:46,389 --> 00:28:43,840 during during launch and the how they're 816 00:28:49,110 --> 00:28:46,399 attached to each other is done with 817 00:28:50,789 --> 00:28:49,120 what's called a a marmon ring and so 818 00:28:51,750 --> 00:28:50,799 what we have here 819 00:28:52,710 --> 00:28:51,760 is 820 00:28:55,830 --> 00:28:52,720 the 821 00:28:59,669 --> 00:28:55,840 lower end of a satellite and here 822 00:29:02,310 --> 00:28:59,679 is the marmon ring so this big ring here 823 00:29:04,710 --> 00:29:02,320 is the marmon ring we have this 824 00:29:07,590 --> 00:29:04,720 satellite mock-up on this hydraulic 825 00:29:11,190 --> 00:29:07,600 stewart platform that we call a hexapod 826 00:29:13,510 --> 00:29:11,200 six struts hex a pod 827 00:29:15,590 --> 00:29:13,520 we have a robot in front of it and the 828 00:29:18,070 --> 00:29:15,600 robot would reach out and touch it and 829 00:29:21,110 --> 00:29:18,080 it needs to react it needs to bounce off 830 00:29:21,909 --> 00:29:21,120 and float away as if it were in space 831 00:29:22,630 --> 00:29:21,919 so 832 00:29:24,710 --> 00:29:22,640 we 833 00:29:27,909 --> 00:29:24,720 have developed a very sophisticated 834 00:29:29,430 --> 00:29:27,919 technique to simulate space contact 835 00:29:31,510 --> 00:29:29,440 dynamics 836 00:29:34,389 --> 00:29:31,520 to put a satellite in motion and so i'm 837 00:29:36,470 --> 00:29:34,399 going to shout across to a fabulous 838 00:29:39,350 --> 00:29:36,480 engineer brian gregory and he is going 839 00:29:51,669 --> 00:29:39,360 to put this satellite into motion take 840 00:29:51,679 --> 00:30:03,909 so 841 00:30:09,909 --> 00:30:06,710 it's not often that you get to see space 842 00:30:11,750 --> 00:30:09,919 simulated in greenbelt maryland but it 843 00:30:13,430 --> 00:30:11,760 actually is a common occurrence that 844 00:30:17,269 --> 00:30:13,440 right here at goddard space flight 845 00:30:19,510 --> 00:30:17,279 center we simulate space on the ground 846 00:30:22,789 --> 00:30:19,520 in our robotics lab 847 00:30:24,549 --> 00:30:22,799 very cool that's awesome i can't imagine 848 00:30:27,909 --> 00:30:24,559 that out in space now 849 00:30:30,310 --> 00:30:27,919 black in the that's right lights um so 850 00:30:33,029 --> 00:30:30,320 humans obviously in this facility have 851 00:30:35,350 --> 00:30:33,039 developed this types of technology so 852 00:30:38,149 --> 00:30:35,360 the human and the technology and you 853 00:30:40,230 --> 00:30:38,159 know you see the horror films you know 854 00:30:43,909 --> 00:30:40,240 human versus robot but really when they 855 00:30:45,350 --> 00:30:43,919 come together they create amazing things 856 00:30:47,750 --> 00:30:45,360 can you tell us a little bit about that 857 00:30:49,110 --> 00:30:47,760 interaction between humans and robotics 858 00:30:50,549 --> 00:30:49,120 and how it makes such a successful 859 00:30:53,830 --> 00:30:50,559 product oh 860 00:30:57,110 --> 00:30:53,840 that's an excellent observation 861 00:31:00,149 --> 00:30:57,120 so going back to the hubble missions 862 00:31:02,549 --> 00:31:00,159 in every hubble servicing mission 863 00:31:03,590 --> 00:31:02,559 we had humans and robots working 864 00:31:04,950 --> 00:31:03,600 together 865 00:31:05,990 --> 00:31:04,960 we have 866 00:31:08,710 --> 00:31:06,000 trained 867 00:31:11,669 --> 00:31:08,720 incredibly brilliant fantastically 868 00:31:13,590 --> 00:31:11,679 dexterous astronauts working in the 869 00:31:15,590 --> 00:31:13,600 shuttle payload bay 870 00:31:18,070 --> 00:31:15,600 with 871 00:31:19,830 --> 00:31:18,080 a robotic arm the shuttle had a robotic 872 00:31:20,710 --> 00:31:19,840 arm in the payload bay 873 00:31:24,870 --> 00:31:20,720 and 874 00:31:29,190 --> 00:31:26,870 maneuvering the objects around that they 875 00:31:31,430 --> 00:31:29,200 replaced inside hubble 876 00:31:34,389 --> 00:31:31,440 today as we think about robots going 877 00:31:38,789 --> 00:31:34,399 into for example leopold to work on mid 878 00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:40,789 we are going to keep the astronauts or 879 00:31:45,190 --> 00:31:43,120 the humans on the ground and they will 880 00:31:47,430 --> 00:31:45,200 remotely control the robot 881 00:31:50,870 --> 00:31:47,440 from the safety of planet earth with the 882 00:31:52,549 --> 00:31:50,880 robotic arms being in space and i can 883 00:31:58,549 --> 00:31:52,559 show you that in the back of the lab so 884 00:32:02,870 --> 00:32:00,549 and and while we're walking i will point 885 00:32:05,190 --> 00:32:02,880 out as we walk across the lab you can 886 00:32:08,310 --> 00:32:05,200 see on international space station which 887 00:32:10,310 --> 00:32:08,320 is what these video feeds are of 888 00:32:12,870 --> 00:32:10,320 robotic arms on international space 889 00:32:15,430 --> 00:32:12,880 station so nasa has a long history 890 00:32:17,350 --> 00:32:15,440 robotic arms on the shuttle robotic arms 891 00:32:18,789 --> 00:32:17,360 on space station robotic arms on the 892 00:32:20,310 --> 00:32:18,799 surface of mars 893 00:32:22,310 --> 00:32:20,320 and i'm going to show you the latest 894 00:32:26,630 --> 00:32:22,320 generation of robotic arm right behind 895 00:32:30,630 --> 00:32:29,190 that's getting close getting close 896 00:32:32,070 --> 00:32:30,640 all right 897 00:32:34,710 --> 00:32:32,080 so here we are 898 00:32:37,669 --> 00:32:34,720 in the next part of our our tour 899 00:32:40,710 --> 00:32:37,679 um with our space arm 900 00:32:42,789 --> 00:32:40,720 and our two robotic arm operators go 901 00:32:44,950 --> 00:32:42,799 easily and charlie bolden who you've 902 00:32:47,830 --> 00:32:44,960 already met 903 00:32:50,070 --> 00:32:47,840 so this robotic arm is 904 00:32:53,590 --> 00:32:50,080 flight like so what does that mean it 905 00:32:55,909 --> 00:32:53,600 has got similar materials finish 906 00:32:58,389 --> 00:32:55,919 electronics that can all withstand the 907 00:33:00,710 --> 00:32:58,399 rigors of space so this flight like 908 00:33:02,950 --> 00:33:00,720 robotic arm joe and charlie are going to 909 00:33:04,630 --> 00:33:02,960 go ahead and put it into motion 910 00:33:07,029 --> 00:33:04,640 um 911 00:33:08,470 --> 00:33:07,039 it's a 7 degree of freedom arm and what 912 00:33:11,029 --> 00:33:08,480 the heck does that mean 913 00:33:12,710 --> 00:33:11,039 what that means is the shoulder 914 00:33:16,070 --> 00:33:12,720 elbow and wrist 915 00:33:17,509 --> 00:33:16,080 have seven articulating joints so three 916 00:33:19,269 --> 00:33:17,519 at the shoulder you see it's doing a 917 00:33:21,110 --> 00:33:19,279 shoulder roll right now 918 00:33:23,269 --> 00:33:21,120 it's got two at the elbow 919 00:33:25,990 --> 00:33:23,279 and two at the wrist so three plus two 920 00:33:27,909 --> 00:33:26,000 plus two yes that's nasa arithmetic for 921 00:33:30,870 --> 00:33:27,919 you that is seven 922 00:33:33,509 --> 00:33:30,880 and you see they are changing the lo the 923 00:33:36,310 --> 00:33:33,519 orientation of the end effector 924 00:33:38,870 --> 00:33:36,320 to point right at us so with two 925 00:33:41,029 --> 00:33:38,880 different hand controllers 926 00:33:43,990 --> 00:33:41,039 astronaut retired marine corps general 927 00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:44,000 charlie bolden is controlling this seven 928 00:33:48,389 --> 00:33:45,600 degree of freedom arm 929 00:33:49,430 --> 00:33:48,399 pointing it right at the camera so it is 930 00:33:51,909 --> 00:33:49,440 with 931 00:33:54,549 --> 00:33:51,919 it's at this very robotic control 932 00:33:57,190 --> 00:33:54,559 station that we will be 933 00:33:59,669 --> 00:33:57,200 manipulating robots in the future to 934 00:34:01,029 --> 00:33:59,679 perform servicing operations like 935 00:34:01,990 --> 00:34:01,039 refueling 936 00:34:07,590 --> 00:34:02,000 on 937 00:34:09,829 --> 00:34:07,600 extending their life getting more value 938 00:34:12,629 --> 00:34:09,839 out of the taxpayers investments 939 00:34:14,389 --> 00:34:12,639 with this technology that is amazing 940 00:34:16,790 --> 00:34:14,399 thank you so much for showing us your 941 00:34:18,550 --> 00:34:16,800 toys and thanks charlie for volunteering 942 00:34:20,629 --> 00:34:18,560 to play um 943 00:34:23,109 --> 00:34:20,639 we've got a bunch of questions 944 00:34:24,950 --> 00:34:23,119 and thanks joe 945 00:34:26,629 --> 00:34:24,960 skilled and natural over here thank you 946 00:34:27,510 --> 00:34:26,639 for teaching charlie everything he knows 947 00:34:31,109 --> 00:34:27,520 about 948 00:34:34,790 --> 00:34:32,790 um so like i said before we've got 949 00:34:35,990 --> 00:34:34,800 questions coming in from social media 950 00:34:38,149 --> 00:34:36,000 and um 951 00:34:39,990 --> 00:34:38,159 i've got some for both of our friends 952 00:34:42,149 --> 00:34:40,000 over here so 953 00:34:44,710 --> 00:34:42,159 uh let's start with ben so what other 954 00:34:46,869 --> 00:34:44,720 satellites are designed to be serviced 955 00:34:48,710 --> 00:34:46,879 in space by robots uh that's an 956 00:34:49,430 --> 00:34:48,720 excellent question 957 00:34:51,829 --> 00:34:49,440 so 958 00:34:53,190 --> 00:34:51,839 designed to be serviced there's really 959 00:34:54,710 --> 00:34:53,200 only two 960 00:34:57,190 --> 00:34:54,720 hubble and the international space 961 00:34:58,790 --> 00:34:57,200 station both designed with human 962 00:34:59,990 --> 00:34:58,800 servicing in mind 963 00:35:02,230 --> 00:35:00,000 um 964 00:35:04,630 --> 00:35:02,240 so those are very notable satellites if 965 00:35:06,470 --> 00:35:04,640 we went to the local grocery store and 966 00:35:08,310 --> 00:35:06,480 asked the average shopper namely two 967 00:35:09,990 --> 00:35:08,320 satellites probably those would be the 968 00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:10,000 two that they would say hubble and the 969 00:35:13,670 --> 00:35:11,520 iss 970 00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:13,680 but there is a thousand eight hundred 971 00:35:18,150 --> 00:35:16,000 other satellites operating in space as 972 00:35:20,230 --> 00:35:18,160 we speak right now today a thousand 973 00:35:21,430 --> 00:35:20,240 eight hundred thereabouts 974 00:35:25,190 --> 00:35:21,440 two of which were designed to be 975 00:35:27,349 --> 00:35:25,200 serviced so a technique a capability 976 00:35:29,190 --> 00:35:27,359 that we are actively working on 977 00:35:31,349 --> 00:35:29,200 with the hardware here in this lab is 978 00:35:33,670 --> 00:35:31,359 the ability to service a satellite that 979 00:35:35,349 --> 00:35:33,680 wasn't designed with servicing in mind 980 00:35:37,510 --> 00:35:35,359 the 99 981 00:35:40,630 --> 00:35:37,520 not just the one percent that's very 982 00:35:43,910 --> 00:35:40,640 much within our uh active uh 983 00:35:46,150 --> 00:35:43,920 program design here is to work on 984 00:35:49,190 --> 00:35:46,160 technologies and capabilities for the 985 00:35:50,310 --> 00:35:49,200 many not just the few okay and charlie i 986 00:35:52,069 --> 00:35:50,320 know i left you out of the question 987 00:35:53,910 --> 00:35:52,079 thing earlier but we've got a bunch of 988 00:35:55,750 --> 00:35:53,920 them that have come in for you now so 989 00:35:57,829 --> 00:35:55,760 from instagram we have someone asking 990 00:36:00,069 --> 00:35:57,839 how long hubble is projected to be in 991 00:36:02,470 --> 00:36:00,079 service that's a good question and i you 992 00:36:03,670 --> 00:36:02,480 know you ask me i would say i think 993 00:36:05,829 --> 00:36:03,680 we're i don't know what we're talking 994 00:36:08,310 --> 00:36:05,839 about now in terms of the finite end of 995 00:36:09,270 --> 00:36:08,320 it but hubble's in great shape 996 00:36:10,950 --> 00:36:09,280 you know 997 00:36:12,470 --> 00:36:10,960 every time we have a problem it takes 998 00:36:13,829 --> 00:36:12,480 itself into safe mode until we can 999 00:36:15,510 --> 00:36:13,839 figure out what's wrong and then we 1000 00:36:17,430 --> 00:36:15,520 bring it back out again i don't think 1001 00:36:18,950 --> 00:36:17,440 anybody would venture i will not venture 1002 00:36:21,510 --> 00:36:18,960 to take a guess 1003 00:36:24,230 --> 00:36:21,520 as to when hubble's life will be over 1004 00:36:26,630 --> 00:36:24,240 the the final decision will probably be 1005 00:36:29,190 --> 00:36:26,640 be made by the budget guys i hate to say 1006 00:36:31,990 --> 00:36:29,200 because once we have james webb uh in 1007 00:36:34,470 --> 00:36:32,000 place and operating it was intended to 1008 00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:34,480 be the replacement for hubble my guess 1009 00:36:39,349 --> 00:36:36,480 is you're going to see the the budget 1010 00:36:41,589 --> 00:36:39,359 guys and the s the astrophysicist and 1011 00:36:43,670 --> 00:36:41,599 the astronomers go at it because hubble 1012 00:36:46,870 --> 00:36:43,680 will continue to give us data that we 1013 00:36:49,589 --> 00:36:46,880 can use to feed into indus telescopes 1014 00:36:51,349 --> 00:36:49,599 like james webb uh to make them even 1015 00:36:53,109 --> 00:36:51,359 more efficient so i would say hubble's 1016 00:36:54,790 --> 00:36:53,119 got a lot more life than we're probably 1017 00:36:55,910 --> 00:36:54,800 going to give it to be quite honest and 1018 00:36:57,430 --> 00:36:55,920 you mentioned something really 1019 00:36:58,390 --> 00:36:57,440 interesting so there are things that we 1020 00:37:00,470 --> 00:36:58,400 can do 1021 00:37:02,790 --> 00:37:00,480 from the ground not 1022 00:37:06,150 --> 00:37:02,800 with astronauts or 1023 00:37:08,630 --> 00:37:06,160 with robots to extend the life of hubble 1024 00:37:10,310 --> 00:37:08,640 what is that well i wasn't i wasn't 1025 00:37:12,710 --> 00:37:10,320 saying we could do anything to extend 1026 00:37:15,430 --> 00:37:12,720 the life of hubble but 1027 00:37:17,670 --> 00:37:15,440 what i was saying before was the way we 1028 00:37:18,550 --> 00:37:17,680 left it after the final servicing 1029 00:37:20,390 --> 00:37:18,560 mission 1030 00:37:22,550 --> 00:37:20,400 it was in much better shape than it was 1031 00:37:24,230 --> 00:37:22,560 designed to be when it was built so it's 1032 00:37:26,150 --> 00:37:24,240 a much more capable 1033 00:37:28,150 --> 00:37:26,160 observatory today than anybody ever 1034 00:37:28,870 --> 00:37:28,160 imagined it would be and that's why i 1035 00:37:30,230 --> 00:37:28,880 think 1036 00:37:32,630 --> 00:37:30,240 there's probably somebody in this 1037 00:37:35,430 --> 00:37:32,640 building who who will venture a guess 1038 00:37:37,510 --> 00:37:35,440 that as to hubble's lifetime i'm not one 1039 00:37:39,990 --> 00:37:37,520 of them because it's not the same 1040 00:37:42,950 --> 00:37:40,000 observatory that you know we designed 1041 00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:42,960 and built back in the 70s 80s and 90s so 1042 00:37:46,950 --> 00:37:44,560 i think it has more capability than we 1043 00:37:48,069 --> 00:37:46,960 can imagine ben you may know well there 1044 00:37:52,550 --> 00:37:48,079 is a 1045 00:37:57,030 --> 00:37:55,270 a phrase we use with uh all complex 1046 00:37:58,790 --> 00:37:57,040 equipment hubble being one infant 1047 00:38:03,030 --> 00:37:58,800 mortality 1048 00:38:06,710 --> 00:38:03,040 of different ways solar ray had some 1049 00:38:08,550 --> 00:38:06,720 issues gyros had some issues 1050 00:38:10,470 --> 00:38:08,560 the optics of course we discovered it 1051 00:38:13,750 --> 00:38:10,480 had some unique features with the optics 1052 00:38:14,630 --> 00:38:13,760 that weren't exactly by design 1053 00:38:18,150 --> 00:38:14,640 hubble 1054 00:38:19,589 --> 00:38:18,160 one of the few exceptions where we have 1055 00:38:22,150 --> 00:38:19,599 through servicing missions and through 1056 00:38:24,230 --> 00:38:22,160 smart engineers on the ground overcome 1057 00:38:26,150 --> 00:38:24,240 though that infant mortality and now it 1058 00:38:28,390 --> 00:38:26,160 is it's going like gangbusters i have to 1059 00:38:30,310 --> 00:38:28,400 agree 100 with charlie 1060 00:38:32,630 --> 00:38:30,320 it is far more powerful than the day it 1061 00:38:35,910 --> 00:38:32,640 launched in fact i believe the the 1062 00:38:37,510 --> 00:38:35,920 number is four orders of magnitude 1063 00:38:39,910 --> 00:38:37,520 more powerful than the day at launch 1064 00:38:41,910 --> 00:38:39,920 because moore's law advances technology 1065 00:38:43,829 --> 00:38:41,920 here on the ground no different but the 1066 00:38:46,550 --> 00:38:43,839 cameras that were put in by these very 1067 00:38:48,470 --> 00:38:46,560 capable astronauts so it's far better 1068 00:38:49,589 --> 00:38:48,480 than the day it was launched and knock 1069 00:38:50,950 --> 00:38:49,599 on wood 1070 00:38:52,950 --> 00:38:50,960 we're going to keep the the science 1071 00:38:55,030 --> 00:38:52,960 discoveries coming 1072 00:38:57,750 --> 00:38:55,040 i've got one more specific question um 1073 00:38:59,589 --> 00:38:57,760 for ben so are there applications for 1074 00:39:02,630 --> 00:38:59,599 these technologies like you know the 1075 00:39:03,670 --> 00:39:02,640 robotic arm beyond satellite servicing 1076 00:39:06,630 --> 00:39:03,680 sure 1077 00:39:09,109 --> 00:39:06,640 we want to discover our place 1078 00:39:12,470 --> 00:39:09,119 in the universe and one way to do that 1079 00:39:18,950 --> 00:39:16,069 go to planetary bodies comets asteroids 1080 00:39:19,750 --> 00:39:18,960 surface of the moon the surface of mars 1081 00:39:21,430 --> 00:39:19,760 and 1082 00:39:23,510 --> 00:39:21,440 collect samples 1083 00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:23,520 collecting samples and analyzing them 1084 00:39:28,470 --> 00:39:26,160 when we are there as mars curiosity 1085 00:39:30,870 --> 00:39:28,480 rover is doing we flew the chemistry lab 1086 00:39:32,630 --> 00:39:30,880 to the surface of mars that required a 1087 00:39:34,870 --> 00:39:32,640 lot of work and that was 1088 00:39:36,630 --> 00:39:34,880 an incredible achievement but just think 1089 00:39:39,190 --> 00:39:36,640 what we could do if we could bring a 1090 00:39:41,430 --> 00:39:39,200 sample back from the surface of mars or 1091 00:39:43,750 --> 00:39:41,440 an asteroid or a comet back to earth you 1092 00:39:44,950 --> 00:39:43,760 know like like a big sample not a few 1093 00:39:46,710 --> 00:39:44,960 grains 1094 00:39:48,310 --> 00:39:46,720 which we've already done from from a 1095 00:39:50,710 --> 00:39:48,320 comet 1096 00:39:51,750 --> 00:39:50,720 so the ability to have advanced robotics 1097 00:39:52,630 --> 00:39:51,760 to have 1098 00:39:54,870 --> 00:39:52,640 these 1099 00:39:57,349 --> 00:39:54,880 tremendous capabilities that engineers 1100 00:39:59,910 --> 00:39:57,359 like joe are helping us develop and use 1101 00:40:01,589 --> 00:39:59,920 those for other exploration missions to 1102 00:40:04,309 --> 00:40:01,599 help support astronauts going further 1103 00:40:07,270 --> 00:40:04,319 into the solar system we are absolutely 1104 00:40:08,470 --> 00:40:07,280 focusing on that as part of our 1105 00:40:09,349 --> 00:40:08,480 mission set 1106 00:40:11,190 --> 00:40:09,359 not 1107 00:40:13,109 --> 00:40:11,200 just satellites even though that's a 1108 00:40:14,870 --> 00:40:13,119 broad thing to say 1109 00:40:17,349 --> 00:40:14,880 we're we're looking at the the entire 1110 00:40:18,790 --> 00:40:17,359 spectrum here a good example of what ben 1111 00:40:20,710 --> 00:40:18,800 was just talking about is we have a 1112 00:40:22,630 --> 00:40:20,720 mission that just accomplished one of 1113 00:40:24,230 --> 00:40:22,640 its major milestones and it's got it got 1114 00:40:26,069 --> 00:40:24,240 kind of lost because it came right on 1115 00:40:28,710 --> 00:40:26,079 the heels of insights land yeah it's 1116 00:40:31,030 --> 00:40:28,720 called osiris-rex that is now orbiting 1117 00:40:32,630 --> 00:40:31,040 bennu an asteroid and that's exactly 1118 00:40:34,309 --> 00:40:32,640 what ben was talking about it's no 1119 00:40:36,790 --> 00:40:34,319 humans involved whatsoever it's 1120 00:40:39,510 --> 00:40:36,800 surveying to find a place that it can 1121 00:40:40,870 --> 00:40:39,520 land so to speak go down get a sample 1122 00:40:43,589 --> 00:40:40,880 and then bring it back and for the first 1123 00:40:46,309 --> 00:40:43,599 time we'll actually have a sample of 1124 00:40:47,910 --> 00:40:46,319 soil if you will from an asteroid that's 1125 00:40:49,510 --> 00:40:47,920 going to help us understand more about 1126 00:40:51,589 --> 00:40:49,520 our solar system and more about our own 1127 00:40:53,349 --> 00:40:51,599 planet earth since it all started from 1128 00:40:54,950 --> 00:40:53,359 the same place so you know the stuff 1129 00:40:57,430 --> 00:40:54,960 that joe and the guys here are doing 1130 00:41:00,390 --> 00:40:57,440 with um with the satellites that they're 1131 00:41:02,390 --> 00:41:00,400 working on right now it's i i would not 1132 00:41:04,950 --> 00:41:02,400 even venture to say what what it is that 1133 00:41:07,829 --> 00:41:04,960 we cannot do with satellites and and 1134 00:41:09,349 --> 00:41:07,839 robotic space spacecraft i love that so 1135 00:41:11,510 --> 00:41:09,359 i know that the astronauts kind of 1136 00:41:12,309 --> 00:41:11,520 answered it from their perspective but 1137 00:41:16,950 --> 00:41:12,319 from 1138 00:41:18,790 --> 00:41:16,960 hubble did you incorporate into the 1139 00:41:21,190 --> 00:41:18,800 servicing technology that you're working 1140 00:41:22,870 --> 00:41:21,200 on right now oh that's a great question 1141 00:41:24,630 --> 00:41:22,880 i'll give you 1142 00:41:30,230 --> 00:41:24,640 the general answer and then a specific 1143 00:41:35,670 --> 00:41:33,109 hubble has been in orbit for many years 1144 00:41:37,109 --> 00:41:35,680 when we got to hubble there were items 1145 00:41:38,870 --> 00:41:37,119 on it that weren't exactly like they 1146 00:41:39,829 --> 00:41:38,880 were when we left it especially on the 1147 00:41:42,550 --> 00:41:39,839 outside 1148 00:41:44,950 --> 00:41:42,560 space is an incredibly harsh environment 1149 00:41:46,470 --> 00:41:44,960 radiation micro meteoroids orbital 1150 00:41:48,390 --> 00:41:46,480 debris 1151 00:41:50,870 --> 00:41:48,400 solar thermal cycling 1152 00:41:53,270 --> 00:41:50,880 it takes its toll on the outside of the 1153 00:41:57,030 --> 00:41:53,280 telescope every telescope or every 1154 00:41:59,750 --> 00:41:57,040 satellite faces these these challenges 1155 00:42:01,990 --> 00:41:59,760 so what we did with hubble we designed 1156 00:42:04,470 --> 00:42:02,000 our tools and our techniques and train 1157 00:42:06,630 --> 00:42:04,480 the astronauts to accommodate a wide 1158 00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:06,640 range of conditions when you arrive 1159 00:42:10,470 --> 00:42:08,160 and one thing we 1160 00:42:12,309 --> 00:42:10,480 technique we used was if you're not sure 1161 00:42:13,829 --> 00:42:12,319 the condition of a component what it's 1162 00:42:15,030 --> 00:42:13,839 going to be bring up your own 1163 00:42:16,550 --> 00:42:15,040 replacement 1164 00:42:17,750 --> 00:42:16,560 that way you can be sure that what you 1165 00:42:21,030 --> 00:42:17,760 leave behind 1166 00:42:23,670 --> 00:42:21,040 is pristine or will work properly 1167 00:42:25,670 --> 00:42:23,680 so robotic servicing we are going to be 1168 00:42:28,069 --> 00:42:25,680 going to a 1169 00:42:32,710 --> 00:42:28,079 22 year old satellite so it'll be old 1170 00:42:34,790 --> 00:42:32,720 enough to drink when we go to refuel it 1171 00:42:37,270 --> 00:42:34,800 it has blanketing on the outside that 1172 00:42:39,430 --> 00:42:37,280 shiny gold blanketing you saw earlier 1173 00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:39,440 we don't know if we're going to mess up 1174 00:42:43,990 --> 00:42:41,920 the blanketing when we robotically cut a 1175 00:42:46,470 --> 00:42:44,000 hole in it to get access to the fueling 1176 00:42:48,550 --> 00:42:46,480 valve so what are we going to do we are 1177 00:42:50,470 --> 00:42:48,560 going to bring up our own thermal cover 1178 00:42:52,230 --> 00:42:50,480 in case that blanket gets mangled and 1179 00:42:54,630 --> 00:42:52,240 quite frankly we are learning by doing 1180 00:42:56,390 --> 00:42:54,640 we might make a mistake 1181 00:42:59,270 --> 00:42:56,400 by bringing our own thermal cover a 1182 00:43:01,270 --> 00:42:59,280 five-sided top hat so to speak 1183 00:43:03,670 --> 00:43:01,280 we will be sure we can leave the telus 1184 00:43:05,270 --> 00:43:03,680 the uh that satellite in a stable 1185 00:43:07,750 --> 00:43:05,280 configuration thermally stable 1186 00:43:09,589 --> 00:43:07,760 configuration with with our own thermal 1187 00:43:11,349 --> 00:43:09,599 cover so there's an example of what we 1188 00:43:13,430 --> 00:43:11,359 learned with hubble was if you can't 1189 00:43:15,589 --> 00:43:13,440 trust it bring your own we're going to 1190 00:43:17,109 --> 00:43:15,599 do that with robots as well and so 1191 00:43:20,710 --> 00:43:17,119 unfortunately we've only got time for 1192 00:43:22,230 --> 00:43:20,720 one more question um how are humans also 1193 00:43:24,069 --> 00:43:22,240 involved in the robotic servicing that 1194 00:43:27,270 --> 00:43:24,079 we're seeing here in this lab what is 1195 00:43:30,230 --> 00:43:27,280 the human component here human judgment 1196 00:43:32,470 --> 00:43:30,240 human dexterity human skill 1197 00:43:34,390 --> 00:43:32,480 you get it guys like joe here running 1198 00:43:36,230 --> 00:43:34,400 those hand controllers right he is going 1199 00:43:37,030 --> 00:43:36,240 to be doing that with video coming back 1200 00:43:39,030 --> 00:43:37,040 down 1201 00:43:40,950 --> 00:43:39,040 from our tools all of our robotic tools 1202 00:43:43,270 --> 00:43:40,960 have cameras on them so joe is going to 1203 00:43:45,829 --> 00:43:43,280 be using those camera views coming back 1204 00:43:47,589 --> 00:43:45,839 on his screens here and deciding how 1205 00:43:48,630 --> 00:43:47,599 much to move the joystick in what 1206 00:43:51,510 --> 00:43:48,640 direction 1207 00:43:52,870 --> 00:43:51,520 so robots are not smart they are not 1208 00:43:55,589 --> 00:43:52,880 smart at all 1209 00:43:58,230 --> 00:43:55,599 guys like joe are smart they've got 1210 00:43:59,829 --> 00:43:58,240 judgment they've got experience and that 1211 00:44:01,589 --> 00:43:59,839 is how we are going to make sure that 1212 00:44:03,349 --> 00:44:01,599 the best qualities of humans and the 1213 00:44:05,270 --> 00:44:03,359 best qualities of robots are married 1214 00:44:06,710 --> 00:44:05,280 together in these future missions now 1215 00:44:07,910 --> 00:44:06,720 you just made it really hard for joe to 1216 00:44:09,510 --> 00:44:07,920 get around the lab the rest of the 1217 00:44:11,030 --> 00:44:09,520 afternoon 1218 00:44:12,790 --> 00:44:11,040 everybody will get out of your way joe 1219 00:44:14,630 --> 00:44:12,800 get out of my way 1220 00:44:16,630 --> 00:44:14,640 everything for joe 1221 00:44:18,630 --> 00:44:16,640 thank you all so much for being here and 1222 00:44:20,870 --> 00:44:18,640 for answering all these questions and 1223 00:44:23,349 --> 00:44:20,880 for giving us this wonderful demo and 1224 00:44:25,589 --> 00:44:23,359 the space to host this show 1225 00:44:27,670 --> 00:44:25,599 we're very grateful but the party's not 1226 00:44:29,990 --> 00:44:27,680 over yet we've got two more live shows 1227 00:44:31,670 --> 00:44:30,000 tomorrow with astronauts we've got two 1228 00:44:33,430 --> 00:44:31,680 astronauts from servicing mission one 1229 00:44:34,710 --> 00:44:33,440 talking about their experience on the 1230 00:44:36,710 --> 00:44:34,720 first ever 1231 00:44:39,430 --> 00:44:36,720 human servicing mission to hubble how 1232 00:44:40,710 --> 00:44:39,440 did that go find out tomorrow 1233 00:44:43,349 --> 00:44:40,720 on facebook 1234 00:44:45,190 --> 00:44:43,359 our facebook specifically and then 1235 00:44:47,910 --> 00:44:45,200 we also have a show in the afternoon of 1236 00:44:49,750 --> 00:44:47,920 astronauts from all the five servicing 1237 00:44:51,670 --> 00:44:49,760 missions plus we got charlie will be 1238 00:44:52,790 --> 00:44:51,680 with us too so 1239 00:44:54,470 --> 00:44:52,800 you're going to want to tune in you're 1240 00:44:56,069 --> 00:44:54,480 going to want to send in your questions 1241 00:44:57,589 --> 00:44:56,079 and we will see you then but in the 1242 00:45:00,390 --> 00:44:57,599 meantime if you want more hubble you can 1243 00:45:02,230 --> 00:45:00,400 always find us on nasa.gov hubble or on 1244 00:45:09,510 --> 00:45:02,240 social media at nasa hubble thank you 1245 00:45:12,230 --> 00:45:11,270 five four 1246 00:45:13,109 --> 00:45:12,240 three 1247 00:45:15,990 --> 00:45:13,119 two 1248 00:45:17,829 --> 00:45:16,000 one and liftoff of the space shuttle 1249 00:45:21,830 --> 00:45:17,839 discovery with the hubble space 1250 00:45:32,580 --> 00:45:21,840 telescope our window on the universe 1251 00:46:45,510 --> 00:46:20,630 [Music] 1252 00:46:48,150 --> 00:46:45,520 trouble isn't just a satellite 1253 00:46:49,910 --> 00:46:48,160 it's uh about humanity's quest for 1254 00:46:51,750 --> 00:46:49,920 knowledge the only way of finding the 1255 00:46:54,069 --> 00:46:51,760 limits of the possible 1256 00:46:55,589 --> 00:46:54,079 is by going beyond them into the 1257 00:46:57,430 --> 00:46:55,599 impossible 1258 00:47:00,309 --> 00:46:57,440 i want to wish hubble its own set of 1259 00:47:09,589 --> 00:47:00,319 adventures that it may unlock further 1260 00:47:13,910 --> 00:47:11,270 hubble's space telescope imaging 1261 00:47:15,670 --> 00:47:13,920 spectrograph or stis has capabilities 1262 00:47:17,190 --> 00:47:15,680 like searching for black holes and 1263 00:47:18,950 --> 00:47:17,200 looking at the atmospheres of planets 1264 00:47:21,510 --> 00:47:18,960 orbiting other stars 1265 00:47:22,790 --> 00:47:21,520 after stis had a power failure in 2004 1266 00:47:24,710 --> 00:47:22,800 the hubble team was tasked with 1267 00:47:26,390 --> 00:47:24,720 replacing stis's damaged electronics 1268 00:47:27,750 --> 00:47:26,400 boards on the final servicing mission in 1269 00:47:29,750 --> 00:47:27,760 2009 1270 00:47:36,829 --> 00:47:29,760 which would turn out to be a memorable 1271 00:47:42,069 --> 00:47:39,589 involved so for about two years i spent 1272 00:47:43,829 --> 00:47:42,079 almost every day with the eva team the 1273 00:47:45,910 --> 00:47:43,839 four crew members we practiced that 1274 00:47:47,510 --> 00:47:45,920 repair many many times and we practice 1275 00:47:50,150 --> 00:47:47,520 it in the water start to finish in the 1276 00:47:51,829 --> 00:47:50,160 pool many times we spent hours and days 1277 00:47:53,910 --> 00:47:51,839 and weeks and months going through what 1278 00:47:56,069 --> 00:47:53,920 if this bolt fails what if the cable 1279 00:47:57,349 --> 00:47:56,079 doesn't mate so i felt that we had 1280 00:47:59,190 --> 00:47:57,359 covered you know as much as we could 1281 00:48:06,549 --> 00:47:59,200 have thought of going into this 1282 00:48:11,109 --> 00:48:09,349 so we came in to work here at the space 1283 00:48:14,150 --> 00:48:11,119 telescope operations control center at 1284 00:48:15,910 --> 00:48:14,160 goddard our mechanical response team was 1285 00:48:17,990 --> 00:48:15,920 was watching the eva in a conference 1286 00:48:20,390 --> 00:48:18,000 room in building 29 i was located down 1287 00:48:22,230 --> 00:48:20,400 at johnson space center along with a 1288 00:48:24,069 --> 00:48:22,240 servicing mission manager the day 1289 00:48:26,150 --> 00:48:24,079 started out really well you know i was i 1290 00:48:27,589 --> 00:48:26,160 was trying to make it a perfect day no 1291 00:48:28,950 --> 00:48:27,599 problems so they get to the section 1292 00:48:30,870 --> 00:48:28,960 where they have to remove the handrail 1293 00:48:32,150 --> 00:48:30,880 on stairs and you have to remove this 1294 00:48:34,069 --> 00:48:32,160 handrail that was designed actually to 1295 00:48:35,270 --> 00:48:34,079 help remove and install the entire 1296 00:48:37,670 --> 00:48:35,280 instrument 1297 00:48:40,150 --> 00:48:37,680 in order to access the electronics board 1298 00:48:42,790 --> 00:48:40,160 underneath and we watched mike massimino 1299 00:48:44,470 --> 00:48:42,800 attempt to do a rather simple task all 1300 00:48:46,549 --> 00:48:44,480 you had to do was remove four screws 1301 00:48:48,630 --> 00:48:46,559 from a hand rail so the two screws at 1302 00:48:50,150 --> 00:48:48,640 the top of the handrail came off fine 1303 00:48:51,670 --> 00:48:50,160 the one on the bottom left comes out 1304 00:48:52,790 --> 00:48:51,680 fine i go to the bottom right we could 1305 00:48:54,630 --> 00:48:52,800 see 1306 00:48:56,630 --> 00:48:54,640 the pistol grip tool 1307 00:48:59,030 --> 00:48:56,640 spinning in the bolt head 1308 00:49:00,829 --> 00:48:59,040 and the bolt wasn't coming out 1309 00:49:04,069 --> 00:49:00,839 we don't want to strip the 1310 00:49:05,109 --> 00:49:04,079 thing oh my god um that was the first 1311 00:49:07,829 --> 00:49:05,119 thing you know it's what are we going to 1312 00:49:09,910 --> 00:49:07,839 do because this is a a show stopper 1313 00:49:12,309 --> 00:49:09,920 right here for a while probably about an 1314 00:49:14,390 --> 00:49:12,319 hour or so we were trying different bits 1315 00:49:16,630 --> 00:49:14,400 on the end of the power tool and we were 1316 00:49:17,829 --> 00:49:16,640 trying all kinds of things 1317 00:49:19,910 --> 00:49:17,839 you know the one thing that crossed my 1318 00:49:21,190 --> 00:49:19,920 mind was what would you do what would 1319 00:49:22,390 --> 00:49:21,200 you do at home you know what would you 1320 00:49:24,069 --> 00:49:22,400 do in your garage you know and i was 1321 00:49:25,430 --> 00:49:24,079 thinking back to my garage you know and 1322 00:49:27,030 --> 00:49:25,440 sometimes what would i do you know and i 1323 00:49:28,309 --> 00:49:27,040 just kind of you know use the brute 1324 00:49:30,230 --> 00:49:28,319 force you know so i thought you know 1325 00:49:31,829 --> 00:49:30,240 what about just trying to break it it 1326 00:49:32,790 --> 00:49:31,839 didn't even occur to a lot of us just 1327 00:49:34,549 --> 00:49:32,800 because it's something that you're not 1328 00:49:35,750 --> 00:49:34,559 really ever trained to do or think of so 1329 00:49:37,510 --> 00:49:35,760 one of the things i did was i called 1330 00:49:39,589 --> 00:49:37,520 back to james cooper back here at 1331 00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:39,599 goddard james cooper called us on the 1332 00:49:42,790 --> 00:49:41,520 speaker phone and said hey guys we 1333 00:49:44,549 --> 00:49:42,800 you're watching this right and he said 1334 00:49:47,589 --> 00:49:44,559 yeah yeah of course we found out we did 1335 00:49:49,349 --> 00:49:47,599 have a mock-up of this disc front panel 1336 00:49:52,309 --> 00:49:49,359 with the handrail on it we came up with 1337 00:49:54,549 --> 00:49:52,319 a quick plan bill mitchell said i've got 1338 00:49:56,390 --> 00:49:54,559 two handrails inside the clean room and 1339 00:49:58,630 --> 00:49:56,400 ken dickinson and i came up with a plan 1340 00:50:00,710 --> 00:49:58,640 for how to rig up the test so we 1341 00:50:02,230 --> 00:50:00,720 scattered into the building to get all 1342 00:50:04,470 --> 00:50:02,240 the materials we were going to need well 1343 00:50:06,790 --> 00:50:04,480 it was a sunday nobody was around 1344 00:50:08,870 --> 00:50:06,800 so i i'm literally running through the 1345 00:50:11,030 --> 00:50:08,880 halls and i run to where the techs would 1346 00:50:12,710 --> 00:50:11,040 be and i find a guy gene mccalliker who 1347 00:50:14,470 --> 00:50:12,720 would happen to be in the building 1348 00:50:15,750 --> 00:50:14,480 working on another project so he said 1349 00:50:17,910 --> 00:50:15,760 what do you mean 1350 00:50:19,510 --> 00:50:17,920 he seemed to pick up on my body language 1351 00:50:21,990 --> 00:50:19,520 before i even asked my question but i 1352 00:50:24,710 --> 00:50:22,000 told him i need a torque wrench and 1353 00:50:27,030 --> 00:50:24,720 i need a digital fish skill he takes off 1354 00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:27,040 to go get it i go to 190. ken 1355 00:50:31,349 --> 00:50:29,200 dickinson's already in there and within 1356 00:50:33,109 --> 00:50:31,359 minutes bill mitchell comes 1357 00:50:35,750 --> 00:50:33,119 busting through the door carrying the 1358 00:50:37,670 --> 00:50:35,760 handrail still in his bunny suit and his 1359 00:50:39,910 --> 00:50:37,680 clean room garment we get the handrail 1360 00:50:41,750 --> 00:50:39,920 all set up everything's ready to go we 1361 00:50:43,589 --> 00:50:41,760 text a couple pictures back and forth 1362 00:50:45,589 --> 00:50:43,599 james gives us the green light 1363 00:50:47,109 --> 00:50:45,599 and gene stands up on the table and 1364 00:50:48,950 --> 00:50:47,119 starts pulling the handrail and right 1365 00:50:50,230 --> 00:50:48,960 when he got to 60 pounds 1366 00:50:51,910 --> 00:50:50,240 it snapped 1367 00:50:53,670 --> 00:50:51,920 actually the bolt went flying once we'd 1368 00:50:55,910 --> 00:50:53,680 done that test then 1369 00:50:57,030 --> 00:50:55,920 i got on our communication loops and 1370 00:50:59,670 --> 00:50:57,040 called it to 1371 00:51:01,190 --> 00:50:59,680 jim corbo so ultimately you know james 1372 00:51:03,510 --> 00:51:01,200 came back and said you know take about 1373 00:51:05,510 --> 00:51:03,520 60 pounds of force for them to break it 1374 00:51:07,109 --> 00:51:05,520 off so goddard had done this test fed 1375 00:51:08,230 --> 00:51:07,119 the information to us we talked to the 1376 00:51:11,109 --> 00:51:08,240 flight director about it to get him 1377 00:51:13,589 --> 00:51:11,119 comfortable okay mass you copy that 60 1378 00:51:15,589 --> 00:51:13,599 pounds linear at the top of the handrail 1379 00:51:17,750 --> 00:51:15,599 to bust off that bottom bolt i think 1380 00:51:19,510 --> 00:51:17,760 you've got that in you that control i 1381 00:51:21,190 --> 00:51:19,520 knew i could do that what if he pulls it 1382 00:51:23,030 --> 00:51:21,200 off and there's debris what if he pulls 1383 00:51:24,710 --> 00:51:23,040 off the handrail and there's a sharp 1384 00:51:26,069 --> 00:51:24,720 edge what if he it takes a lot of force 1385 00:51:28,069 --> 00:51:26,079 and it comes back and hits him mike 1386 00:51:29,670 --> 00:51:28,079 massimino was able to 1387 00:51:31,750 --> 00:51:29,680 put some tape over the head of the bolt 1388 00:51:34,150 --> 00:51:31,760 to contain debris that that might go 1389 00:51:36,230 --> 00:51:34,160 flying and so i taped it as best i could 1390 00:51:38,069 --> 00:51:36,240 and wayne was with me helping me to take 1391 00:51:41,109 --> 00:51:38,079 that thing and then better we don't have 1392 00:51:45,430 --> 00:51:41,119 video right now but we're ready okay man 1393 00:51:50,390 --> 00:51:47,109 what's up 1394 00:51:51,910 --> 00:51:50,400 disposal back please 1395 00:51:53,990 --> 00:51:51,920 everyone erupted in 1396 00:51:55,829 --> 00:51:54,000 tears uh because when he pulled it off 1397 00:51:57,829 --> 00:51:55,839 he didn't see any debris um and he knew 1398 00:51:59,030 --> 00:51:57,839 not to touch the potential sharp edges 1399 00:52:01,510 --> 00:51:59,040 and then we could just put that fastener 1400 00:52:03,349 --> 00:52:01,520 capture plate on and complete this task 1401 00:52:05,670 --> 00:52:03,359 the rest of the repair went fairly well 1402 00:52:08,950 --> 00:52:05,680 so this i mean it was fine actually and 1403 00:52:10,710 --> 00:52:08,960 uh it's this is working that one or two 1404 00:52:12,950 --> 00:52:10,720 hours that i worked on breaking the 1405 00:52:16,069 --> 00:52:12,960 handrail that task that very well could 1406 00:52:19,670 --> 00:52:16,079 go down as a highlight of my career so 1407 00:52:27,930 --> 00:52:19,680 the goddard team did did a great job and 1408 00:52:34,770 --> 00:52:31,750 [Music] 1409 00:52:37,910 --> 00:52:34,780 we are all explorers 1410 00:52:43,109 --> 00:52:37,920 [Music] 1411 00:52:49,630 --> 00:52:47,349 we explore the depths of our oceans 1412 00:52:52,549 --> 00:52:49,640 our planet's inner regions 1413 00:52:57,910 --> 00:52:52,559 [Music] 1414 00:53:07,589 --> 00:53:00,760 we never stop exploring 1415 00:53:11,349 --> 00:53:09,750 galileo opened our eyes to the heavens 1416 00:53:12,829 --> 00:53:11,359 with his use of a newly invented 1417 00:53:14,549 --> 00:53:12,839 instrument the 1418 00:53:16,790 --> 00:53:14,559 telescope 1419 00:53:18,220 --> 00:53:16,800 he started an exploration renaissance of 1420 00:53:19,829 --> 00:53:18,230 the sky 1421 00:53:22,710 --> 00:53:19,839 [Music] 1422 00:53:27,430 --> 00:53:22,720 that would take us to the moon 1423 00:53:31,670 --> 00:53:29,589 for over a quarter century the hubble 1424 00:53:35,460 --> 00:53:31,680 space telescope has been unlocking the 1425 00:53:39,910 --> 00:53:37,750 [Music] 1426 00:53:47,270 --> 00:53:39,920 allowing us to explore the edges of 1427 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,110 from nebulas 1428 00:53:55,990 --> 00:53:51,589 [Music] 1429 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,670 from newborn stars 1430 00:54:03,829 --> 00:54:01,340 to planet formation 1431 00:54:07,670 --> 00:54:03,839 [Music] 1432 00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:11,750 to our own planets 1433 00:54:15,990 --> 00:54:13,320 and from dark matter 1434 00:54:22,390 --> 00:54:16,000 [Music] 1435 00:54:25,990 --> 00:54:23,910 hubble has allowed us to see the 1436 00:54:29,010 --> 00:54:26,000 breathtaking details of the universe 1437 00:54:33,750 --> 00:54:31,430 [Music] 1438 00:54:36,470 --> 00:54:33,760 we salute the thousands of men and women 1439 00:54:38,549 --> 00:54:36,480 from around the world and in space 1440 00:54:42,870 --> 00:54:38,559 that have given humanity this incredible 1441 00:54:46,630 --> 00:54:44,450 while we celebrate its past 1442 00:54:52,950 --> 00:54:46,640 [Music] 1443 00:55:07,470 --> 00:54:55,510 the hubble space telescope 1444 00:55:13,190 --> 00:55:11,670 [Music] 1445 00:55:15,510 --> 00:55:13,200 engineers at the goddard space flight 1446 00:55:18,390 --> 00:55:15,520 center discovered that there was a very 1447 00:55:20,309 --> 00:55:18,400 small fault in the power control unit 1448 00:55:22,309 --> 00:55:20,319 you know it's the heart of hubble it all 1449 00:55:24,150 --> 00:55:22,319 the power runs through that box to 1450 00:55:26,470 --> 00:55:24,160 change out the pcu you actually have to 1451 00:55:28,470 --> 00:55:26,480 turn off the telescope this is something 1452 00:55:30,069 --> 00:55:28,480 we've never ever done is turn the 1453 00:55:32,870 --> 00:55:30,079 telescope completely off because when 1454 00:55:34,390 --> 00:55:32,880 you turn all of the power off of hubble 1455 00:55:36,390 --> 00:55:34,400 it starts getting cold 1456 00:55:37,430 --> 00:55:36,400 you know space is a cruel environment 1457 00:55:40,069 --> 00:55:37,440 and so 1458 00:55:41,829 --> 00:55:40,079 the temperature control telescope is 1459 00:55:43,510 --> 00:55:41,839 very important i was brought on to 1460 00:55:45,190 --> 00:55:43,520 develop a command procedure which we 1461 00:55:47,030 --> 00:55:45,200 called the super proc which would turn 1462 00:55:49,190 --> 00:55:47,040 the telescope off as quickly as we 1463 00:55:51,349 --> 00:55:49,200 possibly could for months we analyzed 1464 00:55:53,750 --> 00:55:51,359 different scenarios we thought through 1465 00:55:55,990 --> 00:55:53,760 everything that could possibly go wrong 1466 00:56:00,390 --> 00:55:56,000 you know we felt confident we had a ream 1467 00:56:04,069 --> 00:56:02,150 i arrived late at night for the start of 1468 00:56:06,549 --> 00:56:04,079 the orbit shift so the team was very 1469 00:56:08,470 --> 00:56:06,559 prepared and very focused on on what we 1470 00:56:10,549 --> 00:56:08,480 had to do that night you know everything 1471 00:56:12,309 --> 00:56:10,559 was pretty calm everything was you know 1472 00:56:13,910 --> 00:56:12,319 you're nervous but everything was going 1473 00:56:15,349 --> 00:56:13,920 according to plan 1474 00:56:16,789 --> 00:56:15,359 john is getting into the suit he's 1475 00:56:18,309 --> 00:56:16,799 getting into the air lock they're going 1476 00:56:19,910 --> 00:56:18,319 through all their checklists and we're 1477 00:56:21,670 --> 00:56:19,920 sending commands and commands and it's 1478 00:56:24,710 --> 00:56:21,680 like a we're starting down a roller 1479 00:56:26,789 --> 00:56:24,720 coaster ride the goal was always to have 1480 00:56:28,829 --> 00:56:26,799 the work site ready to go with whatever 1481 00:56:31,270 --> 00:56:28,839 power needed to be removed for safety 1482 00:56:33,510 --> 00:56:31,280 considerations just when the crew got to 1483 00:56:35,670 --> 00:56:33,520 the work site 1484 00:56:37,910 --> 00:56:35,680 all of a sudden we hear 1485 00:56:38,950 --> 00:56:37,920 over the loops we hear john say i have a 1486 00:56:41,430 --> 00:56:38,960 leak 1487 00:56:43,430 --> 00:56:41,440 what does that mean 1488 00:56:44,789 --> 00:56:43,440 a water leak in a suit you know that's 1489 00:56:47,030 --> 00:56:44,799 that's not good 1490 00:56:48,950 --> 00:56:47,040 then al comes on the loops and tells us 1491 00:56:50,470 --> 00:56:48,960 stop doing the commanding we need to 1492 00:56:52,870 --> 00:56:50,480 figure out what we're going to do from 1493 00:56:55,510 --> 00:56:52,880 this point we immediately did was 1494 00:56:57,990 --> 00:56:55,520 started to assess what components we had 1495 00:56:59,670 --> 00:56:58,000 already powered off and i said you know 1496 00:57:01,990 --> 00:56:59,680 these things don't have a lot of margin 1497 00:57:03,750 --> 00:57:02,000 you know we're we're up to the line our 1498 00:57:05,510 --> 00:57:03,760 thermal engineers would tell us well 1499 00:57:07,750 --> 00:57:05,520 given the condition and the current 1500 00:57:08,870 --> 00:57:07,760 temperatures we've got a certain amount 1501 00:57:10,789 --> 00:57:08,880 of time 1502 00:57:12,789 --> 00:57:10,799 i said okay turn on this turn on this 1503 00:57:14,950 --> 00:57:12,799 instrument turn on these you know 1504 00:57:16,549 --> 00:57:14,960 general bus heaters at the same time the 1505 00:57:18,470 --> 00:57:16,559 astronauts are frantically working to 1506 00:57:21,829 --> 00:57:18,480 change out john's suit to get him back 1507 00:57:23,510 --> 00:57:21,839 ready the next thing we hear is okay 1508 00:57:24,950 --> 00:57:23,520 we've got it fixed you know who got into 1509 00:57:27,190 --> 00:57:24,960 a different suit and things you know 1510 00:57:28,950 --> 00:57:27,200 were working well we turned right back 1511 00:57:31,030 --> 00:57:28,960 around and started shutting things back 1512 00:57:33,030 --> 00:57:31,040 off and so we were right back on that 1513 00:57:34,630 --> 00:57:33,040 roller coaster of powering down again it 1514 00:57:36,069 --> 00:57:34,640 was a relief to me we're back on track 1515 00:57:38,390 --> 00:57:36,079 you know we're back to you know the 1516 00:57:40,390 --> 00:57:38,400 original plan luckily we had everything 1517 00:57:42,309 --> 00:57:40,400 reconfigured in time so about the time 1518 00:57:44,069 --> 00:57:42,319 by the time john got to the door and was 1519 00:57:46,309 --> 00:57:44,079 ready to start working on the pcu we 1520 00:57:49,349 --> 00:57:46,319 were able to send the super proc the 1521 00:57:52,470 --> 00:57:49,359 telescope is powered down 1522 00:57:55,190 --> 00:57:52,480 god tell those super people 1523 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,870 the telescope was completely off 1524 00:58:02,069 --> 00:58:00,549 it's an engineer's lifeblood to sit 1525 00:58:03,589 --> 00:58:02,079 there and watch the television to watch 1526 00:58:05,349 --> 00:58:03,599 the temperatures watch the voltages 1527 00:58:06,630 --> 00:58:05,359 watch the power make sure everything is 1528 00:58:08,710 --> 00:58:06,640 safe while they're working on the 1529 00:58:10,630 --> 00:58:08,720 telescope we had none of that all we 1530 00:58:13,109 --> 00:58:10,640 could do was sit back and watch john 1531 00:58:15,030 --> 00:58:13,119 perform what was the most amazing eva of 1532 00:58:27,510 --> 00:58:15,040 all times it was like watching poetry in 1533 00:58:32,309 --> 00:58:30,150 before we knew it it was time to power 1534 00:58:35,030 --> 00:58:32,319 things back on they give us the call 1535 00:58:36,630 --> 00:58:35,040 down to say go for the pcu aliveness 1536 00:58:38,549 --> 00:58:36,640 test this is where we actually can send 1537 00:58:39,630 --> 00:58:38,559 the commands to turn the telescope back 1538 00:58:42,230 --> 00:58:39,640 on 1539 00:58:44,230 --> 00:58:42,240 [Music] 1540 00:58:46,630 --> 00:58:44,240 all of a sudden this flood of telemetry 1541 00:58:48,069 --> 00:58:46,640 starts coming in from the telescope 1542 00:58:50,710 --> 00:58:48,079 power was running through it the 1543 00:58:53,589 --> 00:58:50,720 batteries were charging um 1544 00:58:55,589 --> 00:58:53,599 and for me the temperatures were looking 1545 00:58:57,910 --> 00:58:55,599 in a safe you know range everyone's